Posted on 01/20/2012 8:49:22 AM PST by Jay777
One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world. There is no such society that I’m aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”
- Rick Santorum
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I think that a big federal government is a bad thing no mattter the policies that it espouses.
Name one presidential candidate that this doesn't describe? Don't even try the "Ron Paul" BS - He cannot even articulate his position on the military - contradicting himself in the same tirade the other night. It isn't "defense" he wants to cut, its the military... NO, he doesn't want to cut the military, just the defense... blah blah blah, multi million dollar embassy in Baghdad... blah blah... wasteful... blah blah. The man is a nut, even if right about some issues. But he would be perfectly happy with Gay marriage if California, New Hampshire, Vermont, or any other state, wanted it... never mind that these states that allow such marriage are then, by law, going to have to recognize those "unions" under "equal protection". It is only a matter of time before this is the mandate of the courts. There IS a need for the Federal Government and Federal-level legislation and even Constitutional amendments to prevent the systematic destruction of this nation. It is as if we are presented with only two options - "Big Government" or "practically no government". Neither is correct, though our founding fathers wanted a pretty limited government.
And Gingrich was the prime mover behind it.
and yes even in the debates he says a balanced budget is unrealistic.
That shows he's realistic. Which candidate has a plan to balance the budget immediately? Paul, maybe?
Santorum has the strongest platform for entitlement reform -- of course entitlement spending is what is causing the budget to explode -- ergo, he has the best platform for spending.
He also is proposing the biggest tax cuts, which at least in the short term do not help balance the budget.
Personally I think that the budget should be balanced, so that if spending goes up we feel the pain of tax increases, and if spending goes down we feel the benefit of tax cuts. Cutting spending and regulations is critically needed right now, and tax cuts are a luxury, imo.
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Santorum needs to put his ego aside, place his country before himself, drop out and go back to wherever he came from.
Rick Perry is twice the Conservative Santorum is!
He deserves the VP slot.
Since 2000 he has led the second largest state in the union on to be the most successful economically.
Perry stated that in his administration he would start all countries getting U.S. foreign aid at ZERO, until they proved to be our allies.
He was also the first to bring the war on religion to the forefront.
Take a look at RINO Santorum’s voting record:
Santorum:
Voted AGAINST increasing the number of immigration investigators:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00201
VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS, paid for by reductions in state grants.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00179
VOTED TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00058
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00154
SANTORUM: Trim Social Security now- even if painful.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j7O34Bpp42k-IlMMNiOLBkYF2zNw?docId=b1cff9ecefe24ca6ae1764a09761e361
VOTED AGAINST FOOD STAMP REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00353
VOTED AGAINST MEDICAID REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00352
Voted to increase the social services block grant from $1 BILLION to $2 BILLION
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00302
VOTED TO RAID SOCIAL SECURITY instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00056
Voted to impose a uniform federal tax mandate on states to force them to allow convicted , rapists, arsonists drug kingpins and all other ex-convicts to vote in federal elections.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00031
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Santorum; Big government spender:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt6XCZz2X1Y&feature=player_embedded
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums
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Rick Santorum is also against contraception.
Tell me how that is not intrusive into the bedroom?
As far as I'm concerned, that trumps ALL, and is EXACTLY what we need in our candidate. Not to mention the fact that he has come back from the dead more then once....isn't that something we DESPERATELY need from our side? YOU BET IT IS....
If California or any state wants gay marriage then let them have it. I do agree, however, that other states should not have to recognize it. This would be the Federal government protecting states rights. Isn’t there federal legislation that protects states from recognizing marriages from other states already?
Winner, winner, chicken dinner. The fact is that total government control is inherently evil. Even if you think someone is going to force people to do good, they already have a warped morality. Thus, fostering further decay inside (whited sepulchres).
Then you have to deal with the fact that because morality CANNOT be legislated (oh you can “outlaw” anything you want, but you can NEVER get people to go along with it, see “Prohibition” for further details), that the minds and hearts of the people will not improved by criminalizing every behavior you dislike (not you personally). Then eventually the shoe is on the other foot.
If you don’t like the persecution of us Christians, the solution is to put the government back into it’s place, tiny and out of the way. If you try and push the pendulum to the other side, it will always swing back. The Founders didn’t create a totalitarian Federal government. They created a tiny federal government that banded together several tiny sovereign countryies/states. Trying to have a huge federal government is ideologically the same as having a one world government. It’s simply a rung below on the totalitarian ladder.
So toss the Western legal system?
It's a feel-good point, but fundamentally unworkable. Marriage is one of the cornerstones of society. End government recognition and you enter the theatre of the absurd.
Well, here's a summary of how he voted while in the Senate. Is it the record of a big government conservative? You be the judge:
Rick Santorum’s Senate voting record:
What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like
NEA
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.
Bankruptcy
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Defense and Foreign Policy
Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.
Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.
Voted for the START II Treaty.
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban anti-personnel landmines.
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same pay raises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyrannical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the President’s authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea.
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program.
Nominations
Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture).
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge.
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN.
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge.
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit.
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge.
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge.
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge.
Labor
Voted against National Right to Work Act.
Voted against repeal of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages.
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor.
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding.
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding.
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization.
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here.
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representatives from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.
Guns
Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device.
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of “assault weapons” by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.
Reform
Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional pay raise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapists, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter “backup plan” to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require state and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.
Immigration
Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators.
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens.
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border patrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.
Taxes
Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.
Welfare
Voted against food stamp reform.
Voted against Medicaid reform.
Voted against TANF reform.
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion.
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.
Waste
Sponsored an amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million.
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museum’s Olympic Sculpture Project (WA).
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion.
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million.
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL).
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry.
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a state’s highway allocation.
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%.
Voted against transferring $20 million from AmeriCorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.
Spending and Entitlements
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies a new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
Health Care
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against allowing consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.
Education
Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing.
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.
Energy
Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.
Voted to make fuel price gouging a Federal crime.
Besides the fact that it looked like Santorum was going to break down and cry twice in the debate last night. The pressure’s getting to him. He has no animation, so he has to whip up his angry tone to try and sound excited. Even that’s not working. He’ll pull out by Florida, but I expect no later than Monday morning. His tax response tipped his hand. He was non-committal, because he’s non-committed. He know’s it’s over, and anyone watching him knows that he knows that.
Santorum, as a Catholic, does not believe in contraception. (FYI, until the 20th century & the sexual revolution pretty much all Christian churches taught the same.)
Santorum, as a legislator, does not support outlawing contraception.
So unless he and his wife are making love in your bedroom, I fail to see how his belief could be considered an intrusion into your bedroom.
Certainly I disagree with many of those things. He cast hundreds, thousands of votes in the House and Senate.
However --
You may have noticed that Santorum is in a primary with
Newt Gingrich - a big government 'conservative'
Mitt Romney - a big government moderate
Ron Paul - a nutty libertarian
I would prefer another option, but of the options available, Santorum is the most conservative, a better small government candidate than Newt, and the most electable.
the Western legal system? We were founded with the intent of a small federal government that was given specific powers...most of which were things it could not do. Anything not listed as a power granted to the federal government is specifically stated as being reserved for the states. That is what I want. A smaller federal government with more power at the state level to decide on things like marriage, abortion, seat belt laws, speed limits, etc.
the Western legal system? We were founded with the intent of a small federal government that was given specific powers...most of which were things it could not do. Anything not listed as a power granted to the federal government is specifically stated as being reserved for the states. That is what I want. A smaller federal government with more power at the state level to decide on things like marriage, abortion, seat belt laws, speed limits, etc.
That’s exactly my take.....Rickey is done by Monday, Paul is done after Fla, Romney won’t make it past Super Tuesday if that far.....
It is a shame we don't have a genuine libertarian conservative in the race.
As far as Newt, I believe his conservative thought is at odds with some of his grandiose ideas, however his is what the others aren't....a no holes barred WARRIOR...
I disagree on the candidate choice but respect your reasoning. My first choice is Brokered Convention.
Agreed. Paul has already been setting up for a 3rd party run from what I’ve heard, which is why the moderators keep asking him about it. I dunno when he’ll get out, but it’ll be soon. Ditto on the rest of your post. It’s too bad about Virginia, but I’m confident Newt will overcome that hiccup. He’s going to be the nominee, and I predict Allen West will likely be his VP.
So much for him.
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