Posted on 01/16/2012 3:04:51 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB
FOREST LAKE, Minn. - A Forest Lake homeowner says he is livid about an "outrageous, unnecessary ending to a great wildlife story" after a police officer came onto his property at about 7 a.m. on Saturday and shot two orphaned fawns that often slept in the dog house at close range without warning. Jeff Carpenter contacted FOX 9 News about the weekend shooting, saying an officer "brutally gunned down" the twin, 6-month-old fawns his family had come to love thirty yards from his home. Carpenter said he was working in the home office when he was startled by a shotgun blast just outside the garage. At first, he thought frost may have cracked the concrete because of the cold, but he heard another shot ring out a few minutes later near the deck area.
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“The cop probably mistook them for dogs. I was thinking the same thing.”
“I thought it was a dog and I feared for my life”/s
OTOH, maybe it was a trained, deadly attack-deer!;)
>>It appears we more or less agree about the cowardly act of these police officers.<<
Amen! We do.
he was on the TV news tonight.
donuts fear him,too.
I agree with you Valpall. I can’t believe this is Free Republic. These were wild deer, being domesticated with the potential to become more of a problem as the years go on. I remember the article a year ago or so, about a lady feeding bears in her backyard. There was a consensus that the police were right to cite her for creating a nuisance. Same theory here, and more people are killed by deer than bears. Deer 132 per year vs. less than 1 per year on average by bears. And yes I know the deer deaths are auto accidents, but domesticating the deer will make them more likely to hang around populated areas.
Innocent fawns...sure, that’s what they
want you to think. Never turn your back
on one.
And yes I know the deer deaths are auto accidents...
They should never be allowed behind the wheel.
Then you need to re-read the thread. The issue is not that "cuddly little fawns got killed" but that a representative of the government intruded, warrantless and unannounced, onto private property and discharged his weapon in close proximity to an inhabited dwelling. It really doesn't matter what the pretext was, or whether the officer was legally withn his rights. Actions like this are both corrosive of property rights and have great potential to escalate into serious situations. In rural areas many homeowners have a loaded rifle ready-to-go. This cop was lucky that the hysterical homeowner was armed with an iPhone and not a locked and loaded M1A.
Remember that if you ever find yourself in trouble.
Same applies to people. MN attracts lazy neer-do-wells from neighboring states with our generous welfare.
Fortunately, the welfare crowd dont often run in front of my car.
Deer are like squirrels in this area. (they are everywhere-Ive hit several in this area) Treating them like pets signed their death warrants, but I also dont think the way the cops or DNR handled this was wise at all.
Some cops just want to kill something, anything. They have guns and mean looking costumes, but are just bored.
I have been watching eight deer in my yard the last 15 minutes. Hope a there are no cops nearby.
But the cop said...
Carpenter then asked whether he had shot the other one, and the officer said, "The DNR told me to shoot them as they may be diseased."
Somebody is lying. My money is on the DNR and the cops.
If they were really worried about disease and the fawns were so tame that collars could be put on them how hard would it be to take blood samples from them? Isn't that part of what the DNR is supposed to do with their $900 million dollar budget? If they wanted to intervene in the taming of these deer and ultimately put them down how hard would it be to capture fawns that let you put collars on them and take them to a DNR facility to test them and put them down with drugs?
Instead they open fire with a shotgun without any warning to the residents making a bloody public spectacle of the whole thing? This was nothing but a power trip completely devoid of rational excuses. Every cop and DNR employee involved should be fired and banned from ever working for any government entity again. No pensions and no severance pay either.
Thanks for the tip.
In years past police were issued a 12 gauge shotgun and the ammunition was 00 Buck Shot.
00 buck shot is NOT bird shot, it has a diameter of 0.36".
According to Winchester their loads leave the muzzle at 1,325 feet per second with 9 pellets in each load.
00 buck shot can be lethal at 100 yards.
The articles do not say what type of ammunition was used in the department-issued shotgun.
If it was buckshot the officer should be out of a job.
Private property is private property. That officer had no business being on private property without a Constitutionally-obtained warrant.
Of course, I never did hear what the cause of death was, for either one of my grandparents. Maybe some government bureaucrat told Forest Lake police that if they spotted them, to kill them on sight. /sarc
‘To protect and serve’ comes to mind.
I have no qualms about disposing of wildlife that becomes a nuisance to people or property.
I do have a problem with an arbitrary determination made by the ‘authorities’, and that determination then being carried out with extreme prejudice and without any advance notice to a property owner.
That sort of behavior is fundamentally wrong and should never happen in a ‘free’ country.
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