Posted on 01/16/2012 11:21:39 AM PST by Obama Exposer
I knew this would happen and in a way, it is a good thing because it will also bring focus to Barack Obama's eligibility. Reading the paperwork on this I found out some things I wasn't aware of pertaining to our citizenship statutes back in the 1940's such as the statute listed in this challenge, U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 Sect 201, 54 Stat. 1137 which provides provides the law by which a person born outside the U.S. is bound by in order to qualify legally as a U.S. citizen. For some that do not know, according to Mexican law at the time when Mitts dad George was born in Chihuahua, he became a Mexican citizen. That citizenship was passed to Mitt at his birth in 1947 despite the fact he was born in Michigan. That means Mitt was born a dual citizen and a born dual citizen is not a Article 2 Section 1 natural born citizen eligible for the presidency as our founders intended. Reading the challenge, they bring out the SCOTUS case Minor v Happersett which is binding precedent defining a natural born citizen. They also cite The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 289 (1814) as well as the case Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830). It goes on to say:
Article 30. Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization: A. Mexicans by birth are: I. Those born in the territory of the Republic, regardless of the nationality of their parents:
"By virtue of this law, in order for George Romney to have become a U.S. citizen he would have to be naturalized".
Well, it will be interesting how the media responds to this.
We are doomed! So stop with the lawsuits and the bickering. It was over before it started. The trick NOW is how are we going to remove this turd smear after Jan 22, 2013? Got any bright ideas boys!?
What bothers me about this type of effort is it is at best, deception disguised as ignorance(bringing false witness). When this type of suit is filed, it only casts negative light on those of us who have studied in order to put out ONLY the truth and thus fuels the mockers.
I reject it, I deplore it and most of all, God deplores it!
Founder and Historian David Ramsay defines natural born Citizen in 1789
Don’t get too upset about it. The result is a foregone conclusion, I think, and it’s time for the courts to decide this once and for all. I think it would be better to decide it now than on the eve of the election, though.
So do you think if George Romney had became the nominee the Senate would have had to get a resolution like they did for McCain stating he is a natural born citizen?
This was entered into the Congressional record in 1967:
Congressional Record (House) June 14, 1967
I find no proper legal or historical basis on which to conclude that a person born outside of the United States could ever be eligible to occupy the Office of the President of the United States. In other words, In my opinion, Mr. George Romney of Michigan Is Ineligible to become President of the United States because he was born In Mexico and is, therefore, not a natural-born citizen as required by the United States Constitution.
The same guy who filed this ballot challenge also filed one on Obama.
Any Congressman can enter something into the Congressional record. It happens all the time during hearings. You’ll get some blowhard spouting off and then they’ll say something about entering material into the record. I’ve read stories about some Congressman entering massive amounts of stuff into the record after a speech they’ve made. It doesn’t prove anything except one person had an issue with George Romney’s NBC status.
You're correct, patlin.
The originating poster, "Obama Exposer," is new and probably joined to spread this moonbat information to discredit FR.
FIY
garbage and non sequiter.
there are only two types of citizen NOT three.
Those who were naturalized, and those who are born here in the US. Thre rest is just junk.
What, pray tell, is the "Birther" definition?
Is that the "ludicrous" common sense interpretation of being born of a U.S. Citizen mother, and U.S. Citizen father? You mean THAT "Birther Definition"??????
LOL
Minor v. Hapersett is not Case Law? Is not Scott v. Sanford Case Law?
Inquiring minds want to know, from one who brushes aside the issue.
They may "find" that, but that would be wrong. It means born as a natural citizen with no other allegiance.
It doesn't matter if his parents had dual citizenship as long as one of them was US citizenship. Romney was born in the USA of two US citizens, so Romney is a NBC.
-PJ
Perhaps he’ll just Veep Romney, then we can have a pair of illegal socialist rowing the boat.
Get both the jerks off the ballots.
You say:
“It doesn’t matter if his parents had dual citizenship as long as one of them was US citizenship.”
What do you base this on?
That you would call our Founding Fathers "garbage", tells me everything I need to know about you.
I intend to continue to uphold my sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
I agree. I think it’s time for us to get a real true blooded patriotic natural born citizen conservative to enter the race, Sarah Palin. She would suck the air right out of Romney’s campaign no matter how much money he has.
NBC is a child born in the USA of citizen parents. I don't recall seeing a debate on when citizen parents hold dual citizenship, what does that mean to the child? Is the child of divided loyalty because the parents are?
I'm interested in reading more on this. We talked about when one parent does not hold US citizenship. We haven't talked about when a parent holds multiple citizenships, one being USA citizenship.
-PJ
that’s it?
well it is established with only two types of citizens.
I suspect much of these tinfoil hat threads are just formented here to discredit conservatives just as many of the creationist threads are formented.
I don’t evel like romney and I can see this case is going to go nowhere fast. It is going to be giving the same credibility as the nutjob from rio linda running for president.
Those who were naturalized, and those who are born here in the US. Thre rest is just junk.
You left out the category of those who are born in another country of American Parents, such as Aldo Mario Bellei of Rogers v Bellei. You also left out derived citizenship. Prior to the Cable act of 1922 and the Women's citizenship act of 1934, any woman married to an American male obtained derivative citizenship from her husband automatically.
Also, for most of our History the Children of naturalized citizens obtained derivative citizenship from their father.
You seem to be of the opinion that this is all simple and cut and dried, but if you research the issue you will discover this is not at all the case. In ex parte Reynolds the court concluded that the sole governing factor was the citizenship of the father. They specifically invoke the principle "Partus Sequitur Patrem". (The Father's country is the child's country.)
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