Posted on 01/15/2012 3:19:29 PM PST by jazusamo
If anyone needs proof Obama is anti-American, this is it...
The reason Obama opposes the Keystone pipeline is that it would not be a government financed project.
Its not that HE wouldnt get credit for it, he would, but so would capitalism, and we simply cannot have that on Obamas watch.
Remember, he is first and foremost a socialist. This means that the government must be the fount of all good, and the pipeline would be totally financed by the private sector.
Unions? Private sector unions now know where they stand. They shall benefit only if the government can take credit.
Idiots. This would affect our whole balance of trade, and at the same time, drive down the price of crude, which is the main source of income of the Islamists, and would have a wide affect on the price of other commodities. I bet some interests are funding the environmentalists to keep things on their present course. Maybe even some pubbies who have friends in the Middle East.
There are 160,000 miles of pipeline crisscrossing the United States today. The Keystone pipeline is 1,700 miles from the one source of oil outside the US that is secure as our own oil. The Keystone will be built with 2011 technology and will carry oil not only from the Canada oil sands, but from the Bakken oil shale in North Dakota and Montana. The amount of oil flowing through the pipeline would represent 4.5% of our annual usage. Montana Governor is Brian Schweitzer (D
You’re probably right. I’m no expert by any means but I believe we have refineries in TX built to process heavy crude from Venezuela which this crude would partially replace.
Instead of going after venture capitalists , Newt should be going after Hussein on this issue. Where are the jobs Barry?
Well of course. All construction jobs are temporary. If I hired a construction company to build me a three bedroom house, i'd be pissed if ten years later theyre still working on it.
these guys almost make a case for jobs - we need 30 people at pump stations - then the fail to mention where the heck those pumps might be lcoated. Then mention mnaufactturing jobs but fail to mention tha it takes a fact ____ number of days for all ____ men in the factory and all the supprot staff to pump on 2000 miles of rolled steel and then it take ___ nubmer of trucks and trucker to take the steel pipe to lcoations...they get half way to what the busy public needs and then they shut up. They all must be members of the republcan (stupid party). THEY CAN’T SELL AN IDEA the public supprots.
The pipeline could also carry the increasing amount oil being pumped from the wells in western North Dakota What is wrong with developing American oil using American companies and making jobs for American workers? Obama’s dithering and pandering to environmental whackos will push the Canadians to build their own pipeline to the west coast and sell their oil to China.
In their defense, I must say that environmentalists are all experts in "wildly inflating" outcomes.
Still, completely pathetic. Their position--"Well, it won't create nearly the number of jobs they say it will"--is, in the middle of the worst economy in 80 years, about as close to bankruptcy as an argument gets.
There's no doubt at all that this will create short term and long term jobs plus benefit our energy needs. We have a turkey in the WH that has to go, for the good of the country.
Nope, here is the real reason:
See #728 Fossil fuel
Absolutely...With the position our country is in now regarding jobs we need all we can get and these jobs would be private sector jobs, both short and long term.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Clean-air agreements signed by California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and two Canadian provinces could dramatically slow oil production in the Alberta tar sands...Ontario and British Columbia have agreed to adhere to California's low-carbon fuel standards, which means the provinces will have to curb oil production sources that create high amounts of global-warming emissions...Nine other U.S. northeastern states, plus Illinois, Quebec and Manitoba are all expected to sign on to California's low-carbon fuel standard,...In recent years Canada has overtaken Saudi Arabia as the leading source of U.S. oil imports...The authors of California's new standard say oil companies must adapt or risk losing business.
If this were a “Green” project blessed by the NIMBY’s and Eco-Nuts they would insist that it will create two million jobs and culminate in the “Green Revolution’, as if that was a good thing.
Green = OK to inflate job numbers.
Proven real world tech. = Benefits MUST be minimized and denied.
The left has no problem supporting the proposed pipeline if it is built by and for the Chinese Government. This is the real effort and reason that Obama will not support the pipeline for America, the Chicoms have their nose under the tent as it pertains to the pipeline, they are proposing building a line all the way to the coastline in BC and have it piped directly to their waiting oil tankers. This is not wishful thinking on their behalf, it is in the works and Obama is quietly backing it. The traitorous actions of his administration has hundreds of “deals” they are working on and we will, once again, be unaware until it is signed and delivered to China.
Oil s fungible, of course. Alaska oil goes to Japan. What it would do of course is to increase the supply, and more immediately, the supply of gasoline. Fact is, though, up until after WWII, the supplied most of the worlds petroleum products. Then came the mideast oil,almost all of which went to Europe. It certainly would take away a lot of the leverage of the national oil companies. Like Venezuela and other enemies of the United States.
Marx says the value of an item is determined by the labor required for production. Lets also include profit.
Some very round numbers:
Projected cost of XL pipeline 13 billion dollars.
Profit ~20% (Dreamland for today’s contractors)
Total Cost of typical job $100k
3 Billion profit This amount did not die here but did not create or save many jobs in this step,
10 Billion equals One Hundred Thousand jobs.
As the money echoes through the economy start with the $13B subtract 30% for tax and 20% profit. (HALF).
The profit would not disappear at each step, but there is quite a bit of lost motion.
100k primary jobs, 100k+ secondary.
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