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Posted on 01/14/2012 11:58:07 AM PST by mitchell001
Should American voters ask Romney and the other candidates what their philosophy of life is and what in their beliefs shapes their worldview? Also, should American voters ask the candidates about the degradation of the American culture especially among young people? I know we all have past sins, ie. Newt. However, Newt Gingrich has openly talked about his conversion to Catholicism and his reconciliation with God for his past sins. Rick Santorum openly talks about his devout Catholicism. Rick Perry is very open about his strong Christian beliefs. However, we do not hear much from Mitt Romney about his Mormon beliefs and how his Mormon beliefs shape his philosophy of life and his worldview. Should we ask Mitt Romney more questions about how the Mormon faith shapes his life?
Damn right he should be asked, and by the right person. I can think of a few on FR who would be excellant to pose questions to him.
Romney is not going to talk about his beliefs because he is either ashamed of them OR he has been instructed not to do so.
He speaks in a postion of authority and what he says will be taken at face value thereby causing problems for LDS inc..
It is like the irrationality of Postmodernism which Ayn Rand decried-—that idea that there is no Objective Truth-—no right and wrong—other than what a Hilter or Stalin forces onto a people.
For people to believe in anything which can be proven false by historical anthropologists and scientists—and claim something that can be proven over and over again as a lie—is an irrational way of thinking, which is extremely dangerous.
Objective Truth—the idea in Natural Law Theory—is the closest we will get to Just Laws as proven since Cicero-—irrational thinking leads to bizarre unequal laws—like “homosexual marriage” and forcing little five year olds (to pervert their natures and innocence) to learn about anal sex.
Romney believes it is ok to force the unnatural ideas into little children and destroy parental rights to religions worldviews that differ from irrational thinkers...he is very evil.
YES!! The question itself is stupid. Any one, any one at all, philosophy of life and world view is at the very core of who they are, to ignore it is moronic.
Ask the Hairy Reed who already runs the Senate......
His religion is neither a problem nor of interest to me.
Worldview matters especially if that worldview includes lying to get what you want, lying about your church’s beliefs, believing you will become a god, believing you are fulfilling Mormon prophecy, believing you are above the law...
I don’t like Romney because of his record, I don’t TRUST him because of his Mormonism.
I cannot believe we still have these threads. Romney is far more dangerous because he is a Liberal. I cannot get past his governing record to even get to his personal beliefs. No Romney, No Way! See the red FR comments on the home page. GOP,you are on notice.. do not even consider uber Lib Romney for nomination.
Mormons believe they can become a God by virtue of their resume on Earth. I’d have to bet that Mitt figures the presidency would be quite a feather in his cap.
Richard Land recently wrote an article indicating part of Romney’s problem is he “isn’t Mormon enough” meaning his views and/or positions he took while a politician in Mass. don’t match up with conservative views of many Mormons, ie soft on abortion, gay marriage, etc.
This is the primary reason I opposed him in the 2008 primaries and is also part of the reason why I oppose him in 2012. He and Huntsman both have this problem as far as I’m concerned.
I’ve always thought Mormons had ultraconservative views which has perplexed me as to how high level politicians within the mormon church like Romney, Huntsman, and especially leftwing liberal Harry Reid could take the views they either have or do and not be in trouble with church leadership.
If I was in their shoes and took some of those positions, I would definitely be in trouble with the leadership within the particular faith organization I identify with. You can take that to the bank, FDIC insured!
20% minimum of them do anyway. Mormons are not THAT big of a voting block and certainly NOT enough to consider having one of them as POTUS.
I’ve always thought Mormons had ultraconservative views
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The LDS aren’t nearly as conservative as the PR would lead you to believe. Reid and Romney are mainstream LDS, not fringe.
The LDS church is much softer on abortion, gay rights and illegal aliens than most think.
I can document this if you would like.
re: I can document this if you would like.
I would like you to document it.
Romney is a temple mormon. He IS the top of the top. Only 15% of mormons make it to the level of temple mormon.
The are not as conservative as they portray themselves to be.
Romney has held nearly all positions of power within the lds structure that one can have and not be called “prophet”.
These are JUST FOR STARTERS....
Abortion...according to their ‘handbook of instructions’ abortion is ok in several cases, the usual health of the mother, rape or incest, but also in cases of emotional health of mother (too much stress). Basically it states it is ok as long as approached with prayer. Many people think the LDS have a lot of kids because they are pro-life, rather they do so out of duty to bring God and Heavenly Mother’s ‘spirit children’ to earth to ‘progress’ and earn their ‘exaltation’ (godhood). There is no statement from the LDS church that life begins at conception and many LDS believe that an aborted child will be given another chance to get a body.
It is also allowed if “The fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.”
We have no revelation on abortion”
Didn’t you assume Mormons were pro-life? That’s certainly the image their church attempts to broadcast, and most Mormons, in fact, mistakenly believe their church opposes abortion and regards it as an objective evil. But not so.
Indeed, the Mormon church accepts abortion for a number of reasons. The Church Handbook of Instructions, approved in September, 1998, states that abortion may be performed in the following circumstances: pregnancy resulting from rape or incest; a competent physician says the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy; or a competent physician says that the “fetus” has severe defects that will not allow the “baby” to survive beyond birth. In any case, the persons responsible must first consult with their church leader and receive God’s approval in prayer (156).
This same Handbook, the official policies of the Mormon church to be followed by all local church leaders throughout the world, also claims: “It is a fact that a child has life before birth. However, there is no direct revelation on when the spirit enters the body” (156). Previous teachings by former Mormon prophets referred to the unborn child as “a child,” “a baby,” a “human being,” and decried abortion as “killing,” “a grievous sin,” “a damnable practice.” Spencer W. Kimball, the prophet who died in 1985, taught, “We have repeatedly affirmed the position of the church in unalterably opposing all abortions” (Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, 189).
It appears that this “unalterable” position, constantly “affirmed,” is just another in a series of doctrinal and moral teachings that Mormons have reworded, reworked, rescinded, or reneged—though never officially renounced. Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in “continuing revelation.” Don’t expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with “the times.”
A further statement in the Handbook says: “The church has not favored or opposed legislative proposals or public demonstrations concerning abortion (156).” While the Mormon prophet claims to speak the mind and will of God, he can neither figure out when the unborn child becomes human or if it is God’s desire that we protect the unborn unconditionally.
Your Mormon friend will offer the excuse that his church leaves many decisions to the free agency (free will) of its people, and that abortion is one such concern. You might point out the irony in the fact that the Mormon church has no hesitation or uncertainty in making the following declarations:
1. “The church opposes gambling in any form” (including lotteries). Members are also urged to oppose legislation and government sponsorship of any form of gambling (Handbook, 150).
2. The church also opposes [correctly, of course] pornography in any form (158).
3. Church members are to reject all efforts to legally authorize or support same-sex unions (158).
There is no need for a member to pray for divine guidance or seek church approval for such activities, for there will be no divine or ecclesiastical finessing of morality to permit even an occasional bingo game. A prayerful game of poker, unrepented, will bar the member from the temple and ultimate salvation; a prayerful, by-the-book abortion, unrepented [abortion], won’t.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mormon-stumpers
See also http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_abor.htm
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