Hoge: Joe Paterno Was Never Fired

CBS 2 Chicago ^ | 1-13-12 | Adam Hoge

[bigbob]

Don’t believe me? I’ll let Steve Garban, chair of the Penn State Board of Trustees, and John Surma, vice chairman of the Penn State Board of Trustees, tell you themselves:

“Coach Paterno remains employed by the University as a tenured faculty member,” they said in a statement released Thursday. “The details of his retirement are being worked out and will be made public when they are finalized. Generally speaking, the University intends to honor the terms of his employment contract and is treating him financially as if he had retired at the end of the 2011 football season.”

[bigbob]

Re-read the original press release at the link. Weasel-words? Was the public (not to mention all those youts who tore up the town) duped?

[Go Gordon]

You mean Hugh?

[bigbob]

it is hugh, but Hoge is the name of the author

[tired&retired]

Meaning... After Joe gave millions for the new library and was now changing his will!!!! We better reconsider this. Not to mention the decrease in alumni contributions..

I have a problem with tom Corbitt, former in house legal counsel for Waste Management Inc., and head of the prosecuting team as PA attorney general(per his own words he started this investigation and called the grand jury as AG), spearheading Joe’s firing as a member of the Penn State Board of Trustees as Pa Gov. ... conflict of interest there???

[Scoutmaster]

You simply can't believe anything to come out of Penn State any longer.

Rodney Erickson, the new President of Penn State, says he only learned of the Sandusky investigation in November. Yet the Harrisburg paper ran the story of the investigation back in March 2011. And then-President Graham Spanier briefed the PSU Board of Trustees.

It's all getting sticky. Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett, who was the Attorney General who began the Sandusky investigation, took gubernatorial campaign donations from the board members of The Second Mile while he had the Sanduksy grand jury impaneled. And he let Bob Poole, the Chairman of the Board of The Second Mile, host a fund-raiser for him, while the grand jury was impaneled.

Poole has admitted that he knew a grand jury was then investigating Sandusky.

Poole Anderson (his company) is paid $25 million a year by Penn State for work on its construction projects. Poole Anderson was also the construction manager for the $11.5 million "Center for Excellence," a Second Mile project. Corbett approved a $3 million state grant for it after getting elected. Then the state grant was put on hold after the indictments.

Now, The Second Mile is selling the property.

Where did The Second Mile get the 60+ -acre property for its Center for Excellence? It bought the property from Penn State for $168,000. In 2002.

I've said it before. There is no family tree in Happy Valley. It's a wreath.

[dfwgator]

And there are some very powerful people who don’t want the truth to come out.

[Zakeet]

Joe was given a death sentence.

When he was canned, I wrote that Joe probably wouldn't live for another year. Sadly, it seems like this is coming true.

Yesterday, from CBS Sports, we get this: JoePa back in hospital over cancer complications

Former Penn State coach Joe Paterno is back in the hospital. His family says he was admitted Friday for observation due to minor complications from cancer treatments, his family said.

In a statement released to the Associated Press, his family said that the 85-year-old Paterno continues to undergo a "regimen of treatments" after being diagnosed two months ago with what they have termed a treatable form of lung cancer.

The family hoped his latest stay would be brief. He most recently was in the hospital last month after re-breaking his pelvis following a fall at home. That stay also allowed Paterno to continue taking his cancer treatments, which have included radiation and chemotherapy.

Finally, I agree with Joe Paterno's statement that, "The first priority in this crisis is to serve the best interests of the victims ... everyone involved is entitled to due process."

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

I've said it before. There is no family tree in Happy Valley. It's a wreath.

Great comment, but it is like that everywhere. In the South we call it "the good old boy network" - but it is the same thing. Buddy system, friends help friends, no bid awards for work given to friends, who then return the favor with donations or contacts. It is how the rich get richer and their friends live as if they were rich but are only getting by on loans/deals within their buddy system.

[Scoutmaster]

I meant to say "You simply can't believe anything to come out of Happy Valley any longer," although most of these people have connections to Penn State. And it's becoming clear that the PSU Board of Trustees only acted surprised on November 4 and 5, 2011.

Everywhere I Google, it's like turning on the lights in a tenement apartment kitchen. More cockroaches. Bob Poole also held a fund-raiser for Leslie Dutchtot, the district judge and Second Mile volunteer who let Sandusky out of jail on unsecured $100,000 bail and has since been removed from his case.

He's rather closely aligned with Penn State, as well as being the Chairman of the Board of The Second Mile. Here's his bio from PSU's Smeal College of Business:

Penn State Alumni Fellow in 2001 and received the Distinguished Alumni Award in 2006. He and his wife, Sandy, have funded the following endowments: The Robert and Sandra Poole Endowment for Excellence in Real Estate Studies, The Robert and Sandra Poole Schreyer Honors College Scholarship, The Robert and Sandra Poole Graduate Assistantship in the Libraries, and the Robert and Sandra Poole Faculty Fellowship in Business. Bob and Sandy also funded the Dean's Suite at the new Smeal College of Business Building. Bob is a member of the Mount Nittany Society. Mr. Poole is on the Executive Committee and Chairs the Leadership Gifts Program "For the Future Campaign" at Penn State. He also Chairs the Schreyer Honors College and is on the Board of Visitors for the Smeal College of Business at Penn State. He previously served on the Steering and Executive Committees of The Penn State Grand Destiny Campaign.

[savagesusie]

“It’s all getting sticky.” If the whole “Second Mile” connections weren’t so inherently sick and perverse, your statement could be funny. All the men connected and supporting The Second Mile could have been involved in a boy/man sex ring. Homosexuality is a group activity and it always prefers boys-—pederasty is the root of all homosexual societies-—because a boy has to be perverted and twisted at a young age to go against nature.

This training and grooming is written about in homosexual literature (and glorified).

People who think this was not a “ring of men” in places of high power are deluding themselves. Homosexuals have no morality-—no sexual morality—which means all sex acts are devoid of judgement-—all are “good” that are “pleasurable”. In homosexual literature the Man/boy connection is their ideal.

[Scoutmaster]

In the South we call it "the good old boy network"

It's like that, but moreso.

Mike McQueary went to school with Jerry Sandusky's kids. He played pickup football with them in the vacant lot across from Joe Paterno's house. He was recruited by Sandusky and Paterno and played for Sandusky and Paterno. Then he served as a graduate assistant for Paterno when he saw Sandusky with the boy and reported him to Paterno, after telling his father who was an administrator for a medical clinic to which Joe and Sue Paterno gave over $1 million. Then McQueary became a coach for Paterno. Sandusky was recruited by Paterno and played for Paterno. Then he was a graduate assistant for Paterno. Then he coached for Paterno for over 30 years. He adopted the biological son of one of the siblings of the judge hearing his case, who was also a contributor to The Second Mile, whose fund-raiser was hosted by a major Penn State contributor, who was also a major contractor for Penn State, who was the Chairman of The Board for The Second Mile, which was founded by Sandusky, and for which the Penn State Nittany Lion served as the mascot . . . and to which Penn State sold land the same year as the unreported rape by one of its founders and active figureheads . . . to be developed under a grant signed by a governor who was on the Board of Penn State and was elected with donations by The Second Mill trustees during the time he was the state attorney general with an impaneled grand jury investigating Sandusky and The Second Mile, and had a fund-raiser hosted by The Second Mile chairman, who says he knew about the grand jury, which was questioning McQueary . . .

[Scoutmaster]

I'm praying for Joe Paterno's recovery. Those who read my initial posts know that my interest in this story comes from the fact that Joe Paterno was a personal hero - and I have no connections whatsoever to Penn State or Pennsylvania.

I'm glad to read his statement that ""[t]he first priority in this crisis is to serve the best interests of the victims." It certainly beats his earlier reference to the boys who were raped (or otherwise molested) by Jerry Sandusky as "the kids who were victims or whatever they want to say."

[ExCTCitizen]

Finally, I agree with Joe Paterno's statement that, "The first priority in this crisis is to serve the best interests of the victims ... everyone involved is entitled to due process."

I still don't know what he knew...but it seems that (as a PSU fan -- relatives has season tickets since the 1930s) if he knew about the abuse and told the trustees... JoePa should've followed up. Unfortunately, he didn't follow up.

I am praying for him to get through the treatments.

[FamiliarFace]

It sounds to me like Bob Poole might fit the bill as one of those who are rumored to be involved in the sex ring (where the victims were pimped out to the wealthy). He’d be high on my list of those to check out, as well as Raykovitz. The whole thing stinks to high heaven, and I wonder if there will truly be any justice for the victims in this lifetime.

[FamiliarFace]

He adopted the biological son of one of the siblings of the judge hearing his case, who was also a contributor to The Second Mile, whose fund-raiser was hosted by a major Penn State contributor, who was also a major contractor for Penn State, who was the Chairman of The Board for The Second Mile, which was founded by Sandusky, and for which the Penn State Nittany Lion served as the mascot . . . and to which Penn State sold land the same year as the unreported rape by one of its founders and active figureheads . . . to be developed under a grant signed by a governor who was on the Board of Penn State and was elected with donations by The Second Mill trustees during the time he was the state attorney general with an impaneled grand jury investigating Sandusky and The Second Mile, and had a fund-raiser hosted by The Second Mile chairman, who says he knew about the grand jury, which was questioning McQueary . . .

I need some help with this portion of your post. Could you fill in some of the names that are attached to these instances? I'm not doubting you, but I am confused about who is who. The adopted son you mention at the beginning is Matt Sandusky, correct, or is it a different one? That's where my confusion started in your paragraph, and after that I couldn't keep up with each next "who". TIA!

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

Absolutely an incestuous relationship, financially. Sort of the Good Old Boy Network hopped up on Meth! Sadly, the PSU grads I know, who were initially devastated, have turned this into just a Joe Paterno thing - totally putting to the side all the corruption. They are more concerned about the football team than the corruption that covered up all of the abuse.

[DJ MacWoW]

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[FamiliarFace]

Thanks for posting this article. Everyone was duped, and it was intentional. No one (not even JoePa nor his kids) gave us the impression that this wasn't a firing. No one said out loud that he was only suspended. I especially liked this portion of the article at the end:

I wonder how Jerry Sandusky’s victims – especially the post-2002 victims – feel knowing that instead of termination, Paterno simply received a four game suspension.

Nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

They used a band-aid when they needed stitches.

This is why Penn State University needs to be completely gutted. Not just the school president and the athletic department. Garban, Surma, every board member and any other person at Penn State with any sort of power needs to go. While publicly they are trying to paint a picture of change and remorse, internally all they are doing is trying save their own asses while protecting people like Paterno.

In other words, the Board has been playing both sides. They don’t care about the victims of child rape. They just want to make everyone happy.

Especially Paterno.

In reality, all they are really doing is showing the world how the hell Penn State let this tragedy happen in the first place.

[FamiliarFace]

Yes, there are many, many reasons ($$$$$) that powerful people at Penn State (and in the state of Pennsylvania) don’t want all the truth to come out regarding this sordid affair. I really hope for jail time for these people.

[FamiliarFace]

They are more concerned about the football team than the corruption that covered up all of the abuse.

It reminds me, in a way, of how many folks in Columbus reacted to Jim Tressel's less-than-forthright admissions in the tattoo scandal. He was considered a saintly man by many, and is even considered to be the fall guy for Gene Smith. Luckily for Smith, though, is that he has plausible deniability.