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Black students at Duke upset over study (finding more black students drop out of hard majors)
Herald-Sun ^ | January 12, 2012 | Neil Offen

Posted on 01/13/2012 2:44:23 PM PST by reaganaut1

DURHAM — Black students at Duke University are angry over a university research paper that found African-American undergraduates at the school are disproportionally more likely to switch from tough majors to easier ones.

“The implications and intentions of this research at the hands of our very own prestigious faculty, seemingly without a genuine concern for proactively furthering the well-being of the black community is hurtful and alienating,” wrote the officers of Duke’s Black Student Alliance in an email sent to the state NAACP.

The letter from Nana Asante, president of the alliance, challenged the faculty members involved in the research and the university administration to consider “what image has this … report portrayed to the rest of the country, namely our peer institutions, about Duke and its black students?”

The unpublished report, “What Happens After Enrollment? An Analysis of the Time Path of Racial Differences in GPA and Major Choice,” looked at the Duke freshman classes that matriculated in 2001 and 2002, in their first, second and fourth years of college.

It found that among students who initially expressed an interest in majoring in economics, engineering and the natural sciences, 54 percent of black men and 51 percent of black women ended up switching to the humanities or another social science.

By comparison, 33 percent of white women and just 8 percent of white men made the switch to majors that are considered less rigorous, require less study and have easier grading standards.

According to the paper, 68 percent of Duke’s black students but less than 55 percent of white students ended up majoring in the humanities or social sciences other than economics.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; bidenvoters; college; duke; wboopi
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The paper is here . Here is the abstract:

If affirmative action results in minority students at elite schools having much potential but weak preparation, then we may expect minority students to start o§ behind their majority counterparts and then catch up over time. Indeed, at the private university we analyze, the gap between white and black grade point averages falls by half between the studentsífreshmen and senior year. However, this convergence masks two e§ects. First, the variance of grades given falls across time. Hence, shrinkage in the level of the gap may not imply shrinkage in the class rank gap. Second, grading standards di§er across courses in di§erent majors. We show that controlling for these two features virtually eliminates any convergence of black/white grades. In fact, black/white gpa convergence is symptomatic of dramatic shifts by blacks from initial interest in the natural sciences, engineering, and economics to majors in the humanities and social sciences. We show that natural science, engineering, and economics courses are more di¢ cult, associated with higher study times, and have harsher grading standards; all of which translate into students with weaker academic backgrounds being less likely to choose these majors. Indeed, we show that accounting for academic background can fully account for di§erences in switching behaviors across blacks and whites.

1 posted on 01/13/2012 2:44:28 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Of course, instead of being angry at the young men and women who take the easy way out, the race hustlers blame the school.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 2:47:31 PM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: reaganaut1
this research at the hands of our very own prestigious faculty, seemingly without a genuine concern for proactively furthering the well-being

So, the point of research is to further some goal or other?

Wow, who woulda thunkit?

Global Warming, here we come!

3 posted on 01/13/2012 2:47:31 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: reaganaut1
this convergence masks two e§ects

grading standards di§er across courses in di§erent majors.

Note to self: Do not type while hiccuping.

4 posted on 01/13/2012 2:49:47 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: reaganaut1

I wonder what the thoughts of Duke’s White Student Alliance were on the matter.


5 posted on 01/13/2012 2:49:53 PM PST by nesnah
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To: reaganaut1

Changing majors, baloney...

I’m betting a good many of them stopped reading the paper before they finished. ;^)


6 posted on 01/13/2012 2:51:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (This administration is Barawkward... yes lets try everything that failed in the 20th Century. NOT!)
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“The implications and intentions of this research at the hands of our very own prestigious faculty, seemingly without a genuine concern for proactively furthering the well-being of the black community is ...

Translation :

Without exploring ways to award the incompetent grades and diplomas that they can't otherwise earn...

Here we go again...

7 posted on 01/13/2012 2:51:56 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: nesnah

Paging Mike Adams, Mr. Mike Adams. Please pick up the red courtesy phone.


8 posted on 01/13/2012 2:52:16 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: All

wow. all they have to do is just lower the standards and everyone passes..


9 posted on 01/13/2012 2:53:13 PM PST by newnhdad
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To: Izzy Dunne

“this research at the hands of our very own prestigious faculty, seemingly without a genuine concern for proactively furthering the well-being”

translation: What about our self-esteem?


10 posted on 01/13/2012 2:53:18 PM PST by StAntKnee (I don't add SARC tags. You get the irony or you don't.)
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To: reaganaut1
Dear Black Students at Duke University,

Stop your F-ing whining and start studying. In life (real life--life outside of academia) nobody gives you anything, you have to EARN it. You don't want so many black students to drop or change majors, then encourage them to work harder and stop bleating like sheep.

Sincerely,

The America taxpayer.
11 posted on 01/13/2012 2:54:48 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: reaganaut1

“The Bell Curve”


12 posted on 01/13/2012 2:54:57 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: reaganaut1

In other news Asian Parents are still disappointed their children only got a 4.0 GPA.


13 posted on 01/13/2012 2:56:06 PM PST by GraceG
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To: reaganaut1

If the NAACP really was interested in the ‘advancement’ of colored people (as their acronym proclaims) you’d think they would view this information as a call to action. But that’s not really what the NAACP is about now, is it?


14 posted on 01/13/2012 2:56:34 PM PST by liberalh8ter (I don't like what the world has become....)
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To: Sudetenland

Studying and getting good grades ain’t keepin’ it real.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 2:57:07 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: reaganaut1

OK, so the report’s findings are “...hurtful and alienating...”

But are they factual?


16 posted on 01/13/2012 2:57:18 PM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: reaganaut1

A number of years ago Thomas Sowell addressed the issue of affirmative action in major university acceptance standards stating that allowing minorities with substandard education backgrounds into the more academic demanding universities was dooming them to failure. And such failure would create nothing but increased hostility towards the white dominated schools and the white population in general.........


17 posted on 01/13/2012 2:57:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: henkster
I don't think they're blaming the school for the situation.

They're blaming the school for studying it and publicizing the situation.

-PJ

18 posted on 01/13/2012 2:57:26 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: dfwgator

Dig it, bro.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 2:57:58 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: reaganaut1

This is not NEWS, just simply TRUTH.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 2:58:14 PM PST by 2harddrive
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