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Apparently the Big PhRma crony capitalists didn't pay these researchers. They told the truth. Glaxo, Pfizer, JNJ finance the anti smoking movement to push their nicotine.

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1 posted on 01/11/2012 5:36:37 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084
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To: Eric Blair 2084
The idea that there is a pill that will help you quit smoking is just plain STUPID. Quiting smoking is sheer will power. Someone convinced you that pills, gum whatever would help?? They don't keep you from picking up a cigarette, you do...all by yourself.

A good support group is the best help you can get.

2 posted on 01/11/2012 5:41:15 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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3 posted on 01/11/2012 5:41:28 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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4 posted on 01/11/2012 5:46:06 PM PST by LibWhacker
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The results are similar, statistically, because most any addiction is “finally” ended, with no more relapse, when the person finally simply decides to take control, and quit, in spite of the pull of the addiction and with or without medical/drug support.

Some people will use medical/drug support to help them get to the point where they will take control (because they believe they need it); and some people will go it alone. But success comes with sustaining the decision to quit (take control of the choice) and, at least statistically, the success and relapse rates are about the same.

However, it is a statistic, and therefor IT DOES NOT MEAN that the medical/drug support is not helpful IN SOME CASES.


5 posted on 01/11/2012 5:47:19 PM PST by Wuli
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Just quit cold turkey.

If not, you will just keep paying those extra taxes, but for a shorter amount of time.


6 posted on 01/11/2012 5:48:08 PM PST by trumandogz
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Considering the taxes we pay, we smokers should soon become the darlings of the government- and therefore of the media.


7 posted on 01/11/2012 5:51:30 PM PST by mrsmith (It's 2012 now. Have you found a Tea Party nominee for your House seat yet?)
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I’d quit smoking tomorrow but murder’s still illegal.


8 posted on 01/11/2012 5:54:29 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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People looking for a easy way out are not yet motivated to the point they will quit for good. Go into it with the attitude quitting will be tough. Very, very tough, but it only takes a few weeks to get over the hump.

And don’t try and quit anything else at the same time. Drink, eat - whatever. One thing at a time.


10 posted on 01/11/2012 5:57:16 PM PST by expat1000
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For anybody trying to stop smoking.

The nicotene gum and patches did nothing for me. I was chewing the gum and smoking at the same time.

I smoked 3 packs a day for years.

I stopped smoking in may 2011 and have not smoked since. I use the electronic cigarette. Works for me. At first it was costing me $80 a week (not much difference from smoking real cigarettes) but I managed to bargain around for different brands and got the cost down to about $30 a week.

I have had no desire to smoke real cigs. The e cigs are working for me.


16 posted on 01/11/2012 6:08:04 PM PST by tsowellfan (I dont need to read the papers. Rush & Mark do it for me)
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I disagree with your conclusion. It seems to me that if you have an equal chance of long-term success with either method, that you should choose whichever method is most effective for you, personally. If you want to quit smoking and cold turkey works for you, then go for it. But if you relapse with a cold turkey approach, you have the option of either trying it again or trying one of those products.


22 posted on 01/11/2012 6:15:36 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (I also think that Obama should be defeated.)
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Quitting smpkling is miuch easier if ou realize that for the first week you will have WITDRAWAL SYMPTOMS

Insomnia, nervousnes, yes- you will be crawling the walls

Prepare for it with some sleeping pills at night and valium during the day and in ONE WEEK they go away

(but you have to go 100% cold turkey- no cheating or it is worse)


30 posted on 01/11/2012 6:35:45 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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Best way to quit smoking is to change your mindset. Smokers want to quit but fear trying for a variety of reasons. Erase those thoughts and focus on the positive things and the benefits of quitting. Then, just quit for tomorrow only. Once tomorrow is over, quit for tomorrow again. And repeat the process. Take it a day at a time, don’t brag to family, friends, and co-workers, and note the day you quit. Each day that passes is one more day away from that day and one more huge feather in your cap. And, finally, be proud of your daily accomplishment. Feel good about yourself!


32 posted on 01/11/2012 6:43:35 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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I quit about 15 years ago using a program called Lifesigns. Probably the most painless way to do it, at least in my case. The gist of it, is you continue to smoke as you are quitting. I know that sounds strange, but it's a program where you smoke as much as you want for a couple of weeks, but each time you smoke you click a little computer that you carry in your pocket. At the end of the time period the computer then tells you when to smoke. Long story short, at the end of whatever period the computer decides you have that's it. I know the last day I smoked I didn't even want that cigarette. It was a fabulous program for me, and I've never relapsed.

I see they no longer have a website, but Amazon.com has it. Amazon

33 posted on 01/11/2012 6:44:05 PM PST by mupcat
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I quit on April 1st, 2009; The day that Barack

"I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

Obama's new tobacco tax went into effect.

It was a better quitting tool than nicotine replacement.

39 posted on 01/11/2012 7:20:31 PM PST by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
#1 - You have to have the desire to quit.
#2 - You have to have the will to quit.

For those that say kicking the smoking habit (Note: habit, NOT addiction) is as hard as stopping herion I say BULL!

Believe me, stopping a hard drug addiction (pain meds, herion, meth, cocain, etc) is magnitudes of difference harder than breaking the smoking habit.
I know from experience.

43 posted on 01/11/2012 7:35:31 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Coming up on seven years as an ex-smoker.

One morning I got up, threw away my caigs and ashtrays, put the lighters in the toolbox and camping gear, and was very nervous and testy for about a week.

No gum, no “mints”, no nothin’.

Got into a fight on FR within the past couple years about whether it is possible to break an addiction through sheer willpower.

I maintain that either (a) it is possible, or (b) enjoyment of tobacco and distress at its absence don’t indicate an addiciton.


45 posted on 01/11/2012 8:02:34 PM PST by ExGeeEye (It will take a revolution to reinstate the constitution. #HT FtP#)
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A pill called Chantix worked for me and I have had no desire for a cigarette in more than 4 years. I smoked and took Chantix until I realized the nicotene was doing nothing for me and that was it, never another desire. I loved the dreams. Great entertainment.


47 posted on 01/11/2012 8:07:38 PM PST by tinamina
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I never tried to quit smoking but knew for years I had to one day soon. My dad died of COPD in 2001 so I was aware of the illnesses smoking caused. I came down with the flu two years ago this March and couldn’t even think about food or smoking. After 3 days I figured the nicotine was out of my system so I kept at it, one day at a time. I read online how one’s stomach would be upset the first 2 weeks of not smoking so that was great for me - I could never smoke on an upset stomach. So far so good but I have no more vices to give up.


52 posted on 01/11/2012 9:26:29 PM PST by peggybac
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