[bert]

Begins hell ?

The anti Mormon bigots are in full hue and cry on Free Republic and have been for months.

Free Republic is probably where he came to learn about the anti Mormon bigotry.

it’s embarassing

[ejonesie22]

Then why are you still associating with FR?

[muawiyah]

Not all those folks are bigots. For the most part they seem to be ex-Mormons, or members of OTHER Mormon organizations, or the children of Mormons who were screwy (FLDS for example), or people with a fairly good knowledge of OTHER non-Mormon groups that are into polygamy.

All of us know that MOST Mormons are converts these days and really have no feeling of ownership for Mormon history. That is a problem for them in that they appear to have little sympathy for those who claim their brush with Mormonism HURT THEM.

Just the way life is. BTW, few people ever imagine Mormons as victims.

[dragonblustar]

The anti Mormon bigots are in full hue and cry on Free Republic and have been for months. Free Republic is probably where he came to learn about the anti Mormon bigotry. it’s embarassing

What's embarrassing are people who defend that cult.

[Zakeet]

The anti Mormon bigots are in full hue and cry on Free Republic and have been for months.

Almost all of what is passed off as anti-Mormon bigotry on Free Republic is in reality nothing more than people providing annotated facts concerning Mormonism ... and the vast majority of that data is taken directly from LDS sources and historical records. Saints are offered an opportunity to rebut the replies and apologies are offered along with retractions if the information provided is not correct.

Alternatively, it is common to resort to ad hominem responses (i.e. attack an opponent's character rather than answer the contentions made) when unable to make a credible and reasoned response. Blanket use of the term anti-Mormon is one of the most blatant examples of that practice.

[svcw]

No, what is embarrassing is people who post these charges with no proof of incorrect information.
If you are offended, apparently, by the exposing of mormonISM to bad.
If you are offended, apparently, by the posting of lds leaders, direct links to mormon sites, to bad so sad - rebut the information.
Either back up your claims, so stop them.
This fake outrage is just boring.

[Elsie]

The anti Mormon bigots are in full hue and cry on Free Republic and have been for months.

Yup!

We getting air time, Baby!

[Elsie]

Free Republic is probably where he came to learn about the anti Mormon bigotry.

Oh I HOPE so!

It means I'm doing my job well; and will soon get anOTHER raise!!

[Elsie]

it’s embarassing

Yup; MORMONism sure is.It's rough being an ANTI-christian organization; but by GOD!! someone has to do it!

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Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

 

 

 

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

 

 

 

Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses

, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

 

 

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

 

 

 

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

 

 

 

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

 

 

 

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

 

 

 

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

 

 

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

[Colofornian]

The anti Mormon bigots are in full hue and cry on Free Republic and have been for months. Free Republic is probably where he came to learn about the anti Mormon bigotry.

And I see, Bert, that you've begun to be in full hue and cry over the realities of Mormonism exposed.

And you don't seem to be taking this very "tolerantly."

Which means you're being rather religiously intolerant...intolerant about certain religious viewpoints being expressed.

And since intolerance = "bigotry"...you are basically confessing to the world...that by your own personal standards...you are a religious "bigot."

So...where do posters go to sign up for a "license" to exercise religious intolerance...like the type you've expressed here?

On what basis are some accorded the "right" to express open disapproval of some religious vantage points?

Why do you assign that right to yourself...but if others express disapproval of certain religious worldviews...that's a "no-no" in your eyes?

Surely you can see the two-faced, hypocrisy you're promoting here. Can't you?

[Elsie]

So, Bert and Ernie: do YOU guys agree with or do you reject the above statements by MORMON leaders?

[Loud Mime]

You’re right - the bigots on FR have made their hatred clear.
It has really soured my taste of this forum. I see the same
hatred on DUnderground; and believe me, they are reading the
postings here.

So much for the Constitutionalists here. A religious test
IS being applied.

[Jeff Head]

Hey, bert. Haven't talked to you in a long time.

Good for the FR class of '98 to get together sometimes.

As regards Romney, as an LDS myself, I will only vote for him as a candidate of last resort. His former positions, and relatively recent "conversion" to more conservative principles are a little too convienent for me. He needs a lot more time proving that what he is saying now is really what he believes.

Having said that, at least he is saying the right things by and large, and if he was the nominee, I would vote for him to beat Obama rather than not vote or go 3rd party and hand it to Obama. I will noot do anything to make it easier for that abject marxist, who is actively destroying this republic.

In the meant time, lets work and hope that one of the more conservative candidates (Santorum, Perry, or Newt) can become the single conservative candidate and calese the conservative vote and beat him so we do not have to make that choice.

...aslo, as I am sure you are aware, watch out for incoming on you comments, I have no doubt you will receive it, claiming all sorts of things about your person because you would say it, LOL! But we've seen worse on these boards.

Take care my FRiend, and God's speed.

Mind our knot.