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"Is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of other people and walk off with the money? Or is that, somehow, a little bit of a flawed system?"

- Newt Gingrich

Not the language of the left? Sure Newt.

1 posted on 01/10/2012 1:23:23 PM PST by americanophile
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Bain did engage in some ugly vulture capitalism back in Romney’s day, but what does Newt want—European style limits on when a company can lay off employees? The government deciding who business owners can and cannot sell their enterprises to?


39 posted on 01/10/2012 1:48:41 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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I understand one of the companies that was deep sixed was in deep trouble when Bain took it over. Their Steelworker union was a major player in the downfall.The mill was built in the late 1800’s and the union played hard ball and wouldn't let the company modernize or even try to become more efficient. Typical union stuff.

All of those old steel mills have expired, unable to compete with the newer mills established after WWII in the US and Europe.

What Bain did is how you describe Capitalism.

I do not favor Romney, but conservatives cannot fault him on this,

Go Perry!!!!

44 posted on 01/10/2012 1:51:21 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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I think the state of capitalism has to be addressed for a number of reasons.

First, the ones manipulating and walking away with other people’s money hit the US Treasury when their mortgage scam blew up. Second, a new cleaning crew hit the treasury in the name of alternative energy. It seems they are above the rule of law and can get away with pulling off economy busting loan scam in cahoots with corrupt politicans.

This is not US capitalism and these elitist mistake themselves as being above the constiution and rule of law. It is something out of the third world.


51 posted on 01/10/2012 1:54:35 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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The Republican establishment is making a big mistake pushing Romney. He will not appeal to independents. I’m an independent - liberal on some issues, conservative on others - but looking for an alternative to Obama. And I WILL NOT vote for Romney, even if he’s the nominee. I’m sure there are others like me who can not stand robot-head.


59 posted on 01/10/2012 1:58:12 PM PST by independent in tx
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Rush jumped the shark today. Newt took it on the chin from Mitt’s SuperPAC without responding, and it killed him in IA. He called on Willard to put an end to it, and smarmy Romney went into his “if you can’t stand the heat” response.

Newt is asking Willard to provide some explanation for his less-stellar Bain acquisitions. Romney can ignore it, but it won’t go away. Remember Willie Horton and Dukakis? Al Gore used it in the primary, and Dukakis couldn’t come up with an answer. GHW Bush took advantage of Willie Horton, and Obama will take advantage of Bain.

Romney should consider this a favor and come up a way of handling his Bain past, or he will have big trouble ahead...not that I care in the Primaries, but I won’t be happy if Willard is the nominee and Obama wins again.


65 posted on 01/10/2012 2:00:16 PM PST by CASchack
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I'm using the language of classic American populism.

Ugh. What the heck is he thinking??? "Classic American populism." Like William Jennings Bryan and Huey Long? Like the old Southern Dem racist politicians? Like George Wallace? Once again, Newt speaks before he thinks.

68 posted on 01/10/2012 2:01:06 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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I’ll stick with Newt on this. Whatever it takes to take down Romney is fine by me.


70 posted on 01/10/2012 2:02:07 PM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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Hmmm ... waffling. Not a good answer.


72 posted on 01/10/2012 2:02:21 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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I told you all.

Newt can’t be trusted. He debates well. But he is scary unpredictable and he is not dedicated to conservative principles or the constitution. Newt is very insecure and dedicated only to newt.

Be afraid of a gingrich presidency.


77 posted on 01/10/2012 2:04:10 PM PST by Yaelle
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I told you all.

Newt can’t be trusted. He debates well. But he is scary unpredictable and he is not dedicated to conservative principles or the constitution. Newt is very insecure and dedicated only to newt.

Be afraid of a gingrich presidency.


78 posted on 01/10/2012 2:04:19 PM PST by Yaelle
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I can not believe how this campaign is going. The most important election in American History and the best the GOP can offer is a liberal mormon and a statist georgian?

Perry hearts illegals and Santorum is getting Borked by the MSM. Huntsman is ajoke. I cant believe this field....

80 posted on 01/10/2012 2:08:07 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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Populist anger is as strong or stronger today than it was in either 1908 or 1933. It was expressed by Gov. Palin as opposition to crony capitalism, as being anti-free enterprise. Gov. Palin recently cautioned against alienating Paul supporters. These voters think in terms of a Wall Street/Main Street dichotomy. Obama will ride out this year on the Occupy, statist, version of this sentiment. The free enterprise side is what Gov. Palin and Speaker Gingrich want to address.

All the Republican candidates except Paul agree that the 2008 credit crisis was caused by government intervention, the CRA etc., and not by Wall Street. There is a distinction, however, between responsibility for the crisis and crony capitalism which gives inordinate power and advantage to those with access to government influence and large capital pools. This is not scapegoating. A large segment of those who believe in and practice free enterprise on a smaller scale, registered Republicans, will respond to Gov. Palin's and Speaker Gringrich's populist positions.

That said, I think that Newt should have produced his own commercial, rather than buying something obviously produced by the dark side.

84 posted on 01/10/2012 2:09:14 PM PST by Praxeologue
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GINGRICH: Well, I don't think I'm using the language of the Left. I'm using the language of classic American populism.

Sounds to me like a contradiction in one pair of sentences. Newt, you are everything we thought you were. Prayers for Santorum as our choices narrow :(

99 posted on 01/10/2012 2:18:04 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("At a time like this, we can't afford the luxury of thinking!")
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If I have to chose between Newt and Rush, I'll chose Rush>
Hello Santorum.


"Establishment Republicans" Want to Redefine the Term "Conservative"


DO CONSERVATIVES "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" WANT TO WIN IN 2012 OR NOT?

Palin was my first choice, but she dropped out.
Bachmann became my first choice,and she dropped out.
Cain was my second choice, but he dropped our.
Now ... Newt was my second choice, but he challenged Rush.
So now ... Rick Santorum, who use to be my third choice, is now my first choice.

But Romney, Perry, Ron Paul, Huntsman, and Johnson are NOT acceptable,
and if on the ballot for the general election for President or V.P., would cause me to do a write in.


There's no way in hell I can compromise my values.

Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.


I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.

The "Establishment Republicans" can go to hell!
102 posted on 01/10/2012 2:22:36 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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For all his talk about the Republican establishment trying to force Romney on us, Rush turned out to be just another huckster. He has put his wet finger in the air and decided he will back Willard. This guy is full of shiite.

It will now probably be Willard and those of us who want to save what's left of America will have to fight, Obama the media Karl Rove Ann Coulter the phonies at Faux and now Rush. How sad that last part it is, but it is what it is. Rush has joined THEM.

108 posted on 01/10/2012 2:28:45 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Photobucket I started to make plans for what I'll do from noon to three after Rush said that.
112 posted on 01/10/2012 2:31:44 PM PST by RetSignman (I take responsibility for what I post not for what you understand.)
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Rush is a Romney supporter. He’s still cheesed off at Huckabee for his part in taking out Romney last time and getting McCain the nomination.


157 posted on 01/10/2012 3:07:49 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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I am warning you. There are not enough “true believers” in what some consider “capitalism” to win an election. What’s more, what we often have in America is not free competition, any more than what we have internationally is free trade. We have (respectively) crony capitalism and one-sided mercantilism. Let the Left have its abstract doctrines, devoid of real-world testing. There are honorable, patriotic, independent Americans whose votes must be won, and they do not buy the idea that what is going on is “free” or “fair.” It isn’t. When executives “earn” multimillion-$ bonuses while their companies lose money, that is not defensible.


158 posted on 01/10/2012 3:08:12 PM PST by hellbender
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"Is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of other people and walk off with the money?" --

That is the best description of the US Congress that I've heard in a long time. Go Newt!!

164 posted on 01/10/2012 3:09:53 PM PST by vortigern
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"Is capitalism really about the ability of a handful of rich people to manipulate the lives of thousands of other people and walk off with the money?" --

That is the best description of the US Congress that I've heard in a long time. Go Newt!!

168 posted on 01/10/2012 3:12:35 PM PST by vortigern
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