Posted on 01/10/2012 1:23:20 PM PST by americanophile
On Fox & Friends this morning, Newt Gingrich fought back against Rush Limbaugh's criticism of his rhetoric on Bain Capital.
FOX HOST STEVE DOOCY: I was driving around yesterday in my car, and I was listening to Rush Limbaugh, and he was talking about you and how you're going after Mitt Romney and Bain Capital.
And he said that you're using the language of the Left to beat up on Romney over Bain.
He said it makes him uncomfortable because that's what the Left will do if Romney is the nominee.
GINGRICH: Well, I don't think I'm using the language of the Left. I'm using the language of classic American populism.
Main Street has always been suspicious of Wall Street, small businesses have always worried about big businesses.... and I think people have a natural concern when they see financiers come in from out of town, take over a company, take all the profits, and then leave people who are unemployed behind.
(Excerpt) Read more at gop12.thehill.com ...
“He let us see into his true thoughts for a moment and it was not pretty.”
I said the other day that Newt would rather destroy romney now than win the election. The fact of the matter is we are not only seeing the true Newt, NEWT is showing us the true ROMNEY. And it is VERY necessary.
Notice that I am not defending Newt, I am saying that romney NEEDS to be outted precisely the way Newt is doing it and that is a good thing. In the process, he is also outting himself and THAT was equally as necessary.
Boom, boom! Out go the lights.
So Romney rescued companies in trouble. What is wrong with that? I wish I had done it. I would be better off and I’d perhaps saved some jobs in the process.
who’s the idiot? ya dam fool. Wages are nothing to do with profit. Like I said in the first place, ya damn fool, you need to look up the definition of some very basic concepts because you obviously havn’t a clue.
I’ve complained to the mods because of your using those racist pictures. Do I have to do it again?
Racist? You’ve got to be kidding me.
That is totally ridiculous. Rush does not back Romney. He backs conservatism and capitalism and so do I.
racist pictures?
Why don’t you just leave instead?
Stabbed in the back? By opening a debate on questionable business practices? I suppose you felt equally violated by the Tea Parties dislike of similar Wall Street business practices.
Haven’t you noticed that what Bain Capital did is what 0bama-enabler Warren Buffett did? These guys do not create new businesses or new wealth out of nothing, the way true entrepreneurs do. They are like vultures or parasites. Not only that, but it is a losing electoral strategy to glorify their activities.
I was grateful the male caller near the end of the show got through. He made most of the points I would have made, had I been inclined to try to call. As it were, I was too disgusted.
All along, I’ve felt that Rushhas been pulling for Newt, and today he acted like he was mad by striking out at Newt for what he thinks was a mistake or fatal error by Newt.
I disagree with Rush’s take, and Rush’s take on capitalism. Newt is specifically calling out Romney’s Bain Capital(Venture Capital), and more specifically the steel company in South Carolina!
Yes, racist. If a black person were parodied in the ugly and disgusting way this poster parodies Mexicans in order to trash Governor Perry, it would never be allowed on Free Republic.
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Sorry...full disclosure
I can’t imagine anybody fails to remember 2008, when I agreed with Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, and Jim DeMint that Romney was preferable to McCain. That was then.
I’ve spent this entire election cycle arguing that we needed to stop tearing down every conservative candidate in the hopes that our “preferred” candidate would enter the race, or would be the last one standing in the burned-down village. We needed to build up all the conservatives, so one of them would be able to beat Romney. Instead, every conservative was atttacked, every possible avenue of victory was shuttered.
Eventually, I gave up, and just started attacking those I thought were bad choices, like everybody else. That happened to be Herman Cain, who while sufficiently conservative, was clearly unable to mount an effective political campaign, and showed no indication of being ready to be President of this country. I took flak for that, but it was just my personal opinion, it’s not like I have a “following”.
And it all became moot when he dropped out over stupid allegations that he should have easily been able to handle, but didn’t because he was an amateur when it came to politics, and he surrounded himself with an ineffective support team.
I always hoped that momentum would swing back to one of the electable conservatives, Bachmann/Perry/Santorum. Instead, and in part because the Cain folks built up Gingrich because Cain/Gingrich did a debate together, a lot of Cain folks jumped to Gingrich, something I never expected after years of seeing how we really felt about him.
I don’t consider Gingrich a conservative in this century. The Gingrich of 2011 isn’t the Gingrich of 1994. Of course, Gingrich will be better than Romney, and better than McCain. BTW, I’d support McCain over Romney this time around, just because I’ve lost that much interest in Romney.
As I explained to my daughter — I supported Romney first for the same reason I expressed above, to counter negatives so all possible conservatives remained viable. I wasn’t a “Romney supporter” in the sense that he was my candidate — I was a Duncan supporter, and then a Fred Thompson supporter (that’s where I sent my money). Duncan was a non-starter, as was Tancredo (another guy I could have supported).
Eventually I had a choice of 4 candidates — Romney, McCain, Huckabee, and Giuliani. I supported Romney out of those 4, as did many here, following the lead of Limbaugh and others. Didn’t matter — by that time Romney was not winning anything, and by the time I got to actually VOTE, McCain was our nominee.
But it was all based on a “hope” that Romney would be what he claimed in his campaign. Since that time, he has done almost nothing to burnish his conservative credentials. If anything, he has moved back to the left. And his defense of RomneyCare has been dissapointing to say the least.
It’s not that Gingrich doesn’t admit he’s wrong, btw, it’s that he gives no good reason WHY he was wrong that would suggest he won’t be equally as wrong in the future. Won’t do us much good if President Gingrich apologizes in 2015 for signing a disastrous bill in 2014.
I would much rather take my chances with Santorum, or Perry. Perry looks dead, but I’ll defend him anyway, because I believe in the ressurection. Seriously though, it doesn’t cost me anything, and at the moment I can’t vote for ANY of these three candidates. I have to choose between Romney and Ron Paul. Hopefully that will change.
BTW, before I was pro-Romney, I had a brief stint strongly defending Rudy Giuliani for attacks on his record that I believed were false. I tend to defend against false attacks without regard to what candidate is being attacked.
I’ve tried not to jump too much into this argument, because it’s the same problem — I wouldn’t defend Romney for what he actually DID at Bain Capital, I just don’t like the use of leftist tactics by our “conservatives”. But I’m not going to get into a fight where i’m perceived as defending Romney. That’s against site rules, and frankly against my own personal interest in this race — all conservatives benefit if Romney is torn down, so long as we don’t destroy conservative principles in the process.
BTW, do you disagree with my contention that Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, and Cain were all solid conservatives? It’s OK, lots of people have rejected one or more of them, but those are my four.
Are you stupid or just trolling?
Do tell me smart ass how a company can continue to pay wages when there is no profit?
They would have to have an endless pit of money....kind of like the Government.
You start out attacking me when you didn't even comprehend what I posted, I gave you the opportunity to go back and clarify what I wrote, you know, be sure you were on the right track....but no, you just keep making a fool of yourself.
Buzz of azzhoe.
Newt’s not my pick, but if he can win the election in November, I’ll certainly be a VERY HAPPY CAMPER. I don’t oppose him so much that he scares me, although I do think he’ll dissappoint conservatives just like George Bush did.
Who are you?
And why would you make a stupid post?
And why should I leave? I’ve been here a heck of a lot longer than you.
I have a right to my opinion and those pictures are racist by any standard, unless you have no standards.
Rush is a Romney supporter. He’s still cheesed off at Huckabee for his part in taking out Romney last time and getting McCain the nomination.
I am warning you. There are not enough “true believers” in what some consider “capitalism” to win an election. What’s more, what we often have in America is not free competition, any more than what we have internationally is free trade. We have (respectively) crony capitalism and one-sided mercantilism. Let the Left have its abstract doctrines, devoid of real-world testing. There are honorable, patriotic, independent Americans whose votes must be won, and they do not buy the idea that what is going on is “free” or “fair.” It isn’t. When executives “earn” multimillion-$ bonuses while their companies lose money, that is not defensible.
Give it up, boy. Look up “profit” and stop your whining.
You are oversimplifying what romney and the malevolent seven set out to do. They set themselves up as predators and sold a bill of phoney goods to companies who thought they were getting expert advice and an infusion of badly needed capital like the REST of the Bain clients. But romney was on his OWN and separate from the real Bain Capital. He used money he and his raiders had raised ON THEIR OWN. He utilized Bain’s name and reputation. He did this deliberately out of pure greed. Don’t you understand that?
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