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The Smithsonian has restored and put on display a 19th century book known as "The Jefferson Bible." (Courtesy of the Smithsonian)

Before everyone gets in a tizzy over this article, please do everyone a favor and read the whole thing. It's interesting how this author throws rocks at David Barton.

1 posted on 01/09/2012 7:39:41 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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After years of reviewing Jefferson, you find that he constantly acts as his own antagonist...and HOLDS two views on every subject.

Slavery is bad but I have slaves is probably the most visible.

2 posted on 01/09/2012 7:47:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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I heard Santorum wants to make Latin the official language.


3 posted on 01/09/2012 7:47:11 AM PST by DManA
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A lot more than “throw rocks”, he outright accuses him of inventing an occurrence in history - the cardinal sin of historians - in claiming Jefferson gave his “Jefferson's Bible” to missionaries for Indians.
4 posted on 01/09/2012 7:49:53 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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le to anyone who wants to fashion Jefferson as a hero for right-leaning Christians

The left don't like their version of history being challenged.

7 posted on 01/09/2012 7:59:47 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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From the article:

Today, the facts about "The Jefferson Bible" might seem like an impossible obstacle to anyone who wants to fashion Jefferson as a hero for right-leaning Christians — and America as a "Christian nation." Instead, the book has been distorted to fit the religious right's agenda.

The author of this article has some major issues with David Barton and organized religion in general ...

8 posted on 01/09/2012 7:59:55 AM PST by Ken522
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He didn’t hold two views on the Book of Revealations. He held one consistent view on that part of the Bible, and it’s not one the fundamentalists will appreciate.


9 posted on 01/09/2012 7:59:55 AM PST by E Rocc (November 2, 2010: The beginning of the end of the kleptocracy.)
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I find it difficult to see why Tom would go to all this trouble.

If the “non-rational” parts of the Gospels are untrue, what reason is there to believe the remaining parts bear any relationship to what actually happened?

I’ve read several bios of Tom, and there’s little doubt he was not either an atheist or a Christian in the traditional sense.

He was quite devout in the Church of Tom, where Tom decided what was true and what wasn’t. A kind of megalomania, IMO.


10 posted on 01/09/2012 8:01:13 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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As for Barton, he has a habit of having to take back things he said. Google his name and “unconfirmed quotations”.


12 posted on 01/09/2012 8:03:05 AM PST by E Rocc (November 2, 2010: The beginning of the end of the kleptocracy.)
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I do not understand why “ fundamenalists” or whatever people feel the need to believe enrything literally.

As TJ pointed out the basic message of Jesus and Christianity are remarkable enough.
I enjoyed the article and I think Jefferson was closer to Christian than atheist.


18 posted on 01/09/2012 8:33:47 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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What Jefferson thinks or doesn't think about the Bible seems irrelevant to me. Why not discuss what Washington, or Adams thinks? There is no evidence that Jefferson was an atheist, but many portray him to be as he didn't fall into every slot made to prove his faith. Franklin also had the same label pasted on him and there ate many quotes showing otherwise for him.

I'm sure that a religious person today could look at any of our lives and make comments showing we couldn't be "born again" Christians or we wouldn't have done or said this and that. There are just as many evidences of Jefferson using Scripture as "cutting" it out of the Bible. Many of the monuments he designed had Bible quotes on them.

The founders had many pastors as signers of the documents and almost all were describes as "devout" in early documents. Glomming on to a modified Bible from Jefferson seems a little desperate to make an irrelevant point. America was formed as a "Christian" nation, but didn't require you to profess it. That was a breakthrough for people that had been forced to bow and kiss a ring to remain breathing.

I'm sure, Jefferson, thinking himself wise, became a fool. If you are going to believe Jesus was the sacrificial Son of God, sent to die for your sins, what would be so difficult about a "virgin birth" or rising from the dead? If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, then how can I count on Him to save me? Can a man walk on water or can God walk on water, and even fly into the clouds? He is either God or not. I'm sure that was the conflict he had much of his life. It is what all of us at some point has to decide. If God can create the universe and humans, why could he not fix their sin and be family with Him? God is quite a concept and is difficult for some. I too was a skeptic until the age of 43, and then God made Himself know to me in a manor that was undeniable for myself. it is easy for me to look as foolish as need be for my Savior after what he has shown me. But for someone else, it may not suffice.

24 posted on 01/09/2012 8:44:00 AM PST by chuckles
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I own a modern printing of this publication. It is not a “Bible”. It is a little book, a collection of extracts from the four gospels.


31 posted on 01/09/2012 9:14:11 AM PST by nonsporting
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thinking back to discussions and readings about Jefferson many years ago, my recollection is that the Jefferson Bible was essentially the New Testament with the miracles clipped out. He had a big time problem with miracles. The remainder included Jesus’ teachings, claims and promises. Jefferson was a believer with conditions.
41 posted on 01/09/2012 10:52:45 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
thinking back to discussions and readings about Jefferson many years ago, my recollection is that the Jefferson Bible was essentially the New Testament with the miracles clipped out. He had a big time problem with miracles. The remainder included Jesus’ teachings, claims and promises. Jefferson was a believer with conditions.
42 posted on 01/09/2012 10:53:05 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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