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To: afraidfortherepublic
What Jefferson thinks or doesn't think about the Bible seems irrelevant to me. Why not discuss what Washington, or Adams thinks? There is no evidence that Jefferson was an atheist, but many portray him to be as he didn't fall into every slot made to prove his faith. Franklin also had the same label pasted on him and there ate many quotes showing otherwise for him.

I'm sure that a religious person today could look at any of our lives and make comments showing we couldn't be "born again" Christians or we wouldn't have done or said this and that. There are just as many evidences of Jefferson using Scripture as "cutting" it out of the Bible. Many of the monuments he designed had Bible quotes on them.

The founders had many pastors as signers of the documents and almost all were describes as "devout" in early documents. Glomming on to a modified Bible from Jefferson seems a little desperate to make an irrelevant point. America was formed as a "Christian" nation, but didn't require you to profess it. That was a breakthrough for people that had been forced to bow and kiss a ring to remain breathing.

I'm sure, Jefferson, thinking himself wise, became a fool. If you are going to believe Jesus was the sacrificial Son of God, sent to die for your sins, what would be so difficult about a "virgin birth" or rising from the dead? If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, then how can I count on Him to save me? Can a man walk on water or can God walk on water, and even fly into the clouds? He is either God or not. I'm sure that was the conflict he had much of his life. It is what all of us at some point has to decide. If God can create the universe and humans, why could he not fix their sin and be family with Him? God is quite a concept and is difficult for some. I too was a skeptic until the age of 43, and then God made Himself know to me in a manor that was undeniable for myself. it is easy for me to look as foolish as need be for my Savior after what he has shown me. But for someone else, it may not suffice.

24 posted on 01/09/2012 8:44:00 AM PST by chuckles
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To: chuckles
If you are going to believe Jesus was the sacrificial Son of God, sent to die for your sins, what would be so difficult about a "virgin birth" or rising from the dead?

Ahh, but Jefferson did NOT believe Jesus was God or the Son of God.

If that is your definition of Christian, Tom wasn't one.

34 posted on 01/09/2012 9:27:52 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: chuckles
If you are going to believe Jesus was the sacrificial Son of God, sent to die for your sins, what would be so difficult about a "virgin birth" or rising from the dead? If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, then how can I count on Him to save me? Can a man walk on water or can God walk on water, and even fly into the clouds? He is either God or not. I'm sure that was the conflict he had much of his life. It is what all of us at some point has to decide. If God can create the universe and humans, why could he not fix their sin and be family with Him?

God didn't leave us much wiggle room. By his own words, Jesus proclaimed he was "the light, the truth, and the way". Either Jesus was a raving lunatic, or He was who He said He was, God incarnate. If he wasn't the Messiah, his sacrifice was worthless, and his words, merely the ravings of a madman.

I know where I stand on the question, given the impact God has had on my life over the years.

43 posted on 01/09/2012 11:13:21 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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