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What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like
Red State ^ | 010612 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/06/2012 10:00:48 AM PST by Fred

I’m rather tired of all the people who don’t like Romney trying to claim Rick Santorum is not a big government conservative, or not a pro-life statist. I would support him before I would support Romney too, but I have no intention of giving up ideological and intellectual consistency in the name of beating Mitt Romney.

Rick Santorum is a pro-life statist. He is. You will have to deal with it. He is a big government conservative. Santorum is right on social issues, but has never let his love of social issues stand in the way of the creeping expansion of the welfare state. In fact, he has been complicit in the expansion of the welfare state.

I and some friends, none of us Romney fans, have set about exploring Santorum’s record since Wednesday morning. Here now is a non-exhaustive list of what we have found. It does not even include his support for No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part D, etc.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigego; biggovt; gingrich; perry; romney; santorum; stalkinghorse
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To: Responsibility2nd

Are you saying that Erickson is a paul-tard???? Can the desperation please cease.

Make your case for these votes, Santorum is going to have to make his case, help your candidate.


21 posted on 01/06/2012 10:28:30 AM PST by Fred (No Job No Home No Food No Problem - Obama 2012)
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To: LimberJim
When you have democraps and rinos writing bills, adults know that there is always crap in them that some politicians do not support, that is why the a- holes have 9000 page bills that must pass. You can bet money that the only people who have not voted this way are the willards and he proposed them on the state level. Monkey poo from red state is kinder-garden thinking.
22 posted on 01/06/2012 10:32:24 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and nervous supporters.)
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To: Fred

You mean “except Romney and Huntsman”.


23 posted on 01/06/2012 10:32:41 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Fred

Which candidate two days ago said that he was the man with BIG IDEAS and BIG SOLUTIONS? Sounds like BIG GUBMINT to me.

LLS


24 posted on 01/06/2012 10:33:36 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: milwguy

If America does not embrace GOD and those “social issues”... then we are not only doomed as a Republic but we will be damned to hell too. The time has come to embrace GOD and not turn from HIM for political gain.

LLS


25 posted on 01/06/2012 10:37:09 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: Fred

OK, I went looking for evidence that Erickson was a libertarian. I didn’t find what I was looking for, but this....

“Rick Santorum is a pro-life statist. He is. You will have to deal with it. He is a big government conservative...”

This is evidence enough that Erickson is a libetarian based on this snarky attack of a pro-life candidate.

ANYBODY that attacks a candidate based on their strong pro-life viewpoints is a moron.


26 posted on 01/06/2012 10:38:27 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Fred

Seems to me Jim has spoken about attacking conservative Republican candidates, and made it clear that WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING THIS, especially at this point in the primaries.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2829090/posts


27 posted on 01/06/2012 10:39:51 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: milwguy

Every single candidate sucks... they all do... none of them have solid Conservative credentials... that is a fact... so which turd do YOU want to let swim in our punch bowl?

LLS


28 posted on 01/06/2012 10:40:15 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

There’s more to a leader than the devoutness of his/her religious faith. It’s not a sufficient condition by itself.


29 posted on 01/06/2012 10:40:39 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: milwguy

Let’s face it, on this board, name a GOP candidate, and someone will find something about him/her that makes him/her unacceptible.


30 posted on 01/06/2012 10:43:40 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: JSDude1
Erickson is letting himself get used...

If the Rick Perry campaign thinks that delivering its opposition research files (on Rick Santorum) to Erick Erickson is an effective messaging technique — well, good luck with that.

31 posted on 01/06/2012 10:43:58 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Deb

Not sure about Eric. But one thing for sure: Rick S. is not the answer for the not-Romney wing of the party. I hope we wake up in time: it is Newt all the way.


32 posted on 01/06/2012 10:43:58 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ve read about Erickson’s coined term ‘pro-life statist’, and it’s not in any way meant as an indictment of pro-lifers.

The point of it, is that those who use pro-life positions as an excuse to institute big government, are a liability to the conservative movement.

He’s right.


33 posted on 01/06/2012 10:45:46 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Fred

LOL. There are some people on this board whose vocabulary does not extend beyond Paul-tard, Paulbot, and RuPaul.


34 posted on 01/06/2012 10:46:26 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Fred

I thought that question was settled. We WILL be getting a big state big spender for a candidate because that is what the “adults” are prepared to present us with.


35 posted on 01/06/2012 10:47:53 AM PST by DManA
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To: Utmost Certainty

Those who use ANY excuse to institute big government are a danger to us all.


36 posted on 01/06/2012 10:48:24 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: milwguy

Ditto.....


37 posted on 01/06/2012 10:51:00 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Daveinyork

Indeed.


38 posted on 01/06/2012 10:51:22 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Utmost Certainty

The point of it, is that those who use pro-life positions as an excuse to institute big government, are a liability to the conservative movement.

 

 

 

Give me just one example of how a pro-life position can possibly lead to bigger government.

 

Just one.

 

Here; I'll help you out. If we overtun Roe and outlaw abortions, we will have millions of new welfare babies to max out our welfare roles.

 

Now. Is that what your're saying?



39 posted on 01/06/2012 10:52:06 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

I didn’t say that it was... so please do not try to put words into my mouth... but a lack of GOD in a person’s life disqualifies that person from consideration IMHO.

LLS


40 posted on 01/06/2012 10:56:06 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!)
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