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To: ReformationFan

“Why not just make all restrooms and locker rooms “gender neutral” and be done with it?”

A grammer school run by UCLA 50 years ago had a unisex bathroom that didn’t even have stalls, just toilets lined up along the wall.

That restroom was weven for the teacher.


17 posted on 01/05/2012 8:52:25 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed
I once traveled to Mobile, AL to play in the Alabama Open Chess Championship. Drove a VW Squareback and slept in the back. Went to the U of SO. AL campus to sleep in the parking lot and use the dorm bathrooms since it was a holiday weekend and students were supposedly gone home. The guard at the gate told me which men's dorm to park in front of (it was previously a military base and they all looked the same) and use the bathroom. Early in the morning I went into the bathroom and had a nice long hot shower and was standing at the sink shaving when a young female sauntered into the bathroom, let out a strain squeak and fled the scene leaving her bathtowel in the doorway.

I appreciated the towel since I had forgotten to pack one and needed drying off after my shower and shave before dressing. I doubt the gate guard even understood why I thanked him so profusely when I left the lot.

20 posted on 01/05/2012 9:27:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: dalereed; ReformationFan; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This law is screwed up in so many ways...

But let me share a story. When I was in college (early 70's) I visited a friend at his dorm at MIT. The dorm had been all-male, but that year it had gone co-ed. The bathrooms (one to a floor) were initially alternately marked with paper signs as "MEN" (1st, 3rd, 5th,...floors) and "WOMEN" (2nd, 4th,... floors).

These things happened in a matter of two weeks:

  1. For a few days, everybody put up with the inconvenience of having to use stairwells to go to another floor for a shower or pee.

  2. Then the hassle started being a pain, and a few kids agreed to "stand watch" while each other would use the "wrong" bathroom.

  3. Eventually the time came when no friends were available to stand watch, and a few kids just took their chances. Inevitably a few "surprises" occurred, but nobody was particularly freaked out.

  4. The paper signs on the MENs bathrooms came down, and all the "MEN" bathrooms were declared "UNISEX" (or some such term, maybe "COED", I forget). The WOMENs bathrooms remained women-only.

I was taking a shower in the open shower area of the MENs bathroom one morning, when a lovely girl of 20 or so, whom I did not know, came strolling in, dropped her towel, and proceeded to take a shower at the position next to mine. We had a perfectly normal (if somewhat superficial) conversation for a few minutes, while of course enjoying the view, and when we were done we toweled ourselves dry, combed our hair, and said goodbye. No big deal, really. That was 40 years ago.

BUT THAT WAS TWO NORMAL PEOPLE, OF THE CORRECT SEXES, WHO WERE NOT CONFUSED ABOUT THEIR SEXUALITY.

The part about this misbegotten, wrong-headed law that gets to me is -- the people who are disrupting the order are by definition CONFUSED about their SEXUALITY. In my opinion they present a significant potential threat -- NOT ONLY to the normal people who use sex-separated facilities by choice, but ALSO to those of us who don't much care if a normal person of the other sex sees us, but who are bothered by some deve ogling us while we shower.

This law is wrong, top to bottom.

25 posted on 01/05/2012 10:01:39 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dalereed
Just so you know....

> A grammer school run by UCLA 50 years ago had a unisex bathroom that didn’t even have stalls, just toilets lined up along the wall.... what I was referring to was the corruption of children by a university 50 years ago. That restroom didn't even have a door on it so the toilets were visible to anyone at that school.

That's criminal, IMO. I agree with you completely, those were kids!!

The story I shared about MIT was about adults -- all over 18, and the reassignment of the bathrooms was entirely by their own choice.

27 posted on 01/05/2012 10:07:45 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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