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Retired Army colonel charged with stealing
Arizona Daily Star ^

Posted on 01/05/2012 11:39:48 AM PST by SandRat

This Colonel is a disgrace. He should face a Military Gerneral Courts Martial. Then on conviction he could have his discharge changed to a Dishonerable Discharge, be reduced in rank to E-1, get Federal Military Prison time, and loose all pay and benefits.


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1 posted on 01/05/2012 11:39:55 AM PST by SandRat
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no, trial - then shot.

wutta scumbag


2 posted on 01/05/2012 11:45:35 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: SandRat

no, trial - then shot.

wutta scumbag


3 posted on 01/05/2012 11:46:02 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: SandRat

I could not agree more. This is absolutely appalling.


4 posted on 01/05/2012 11:46:35 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SandRat

Makes one wonder what he stole while he was active duty.


5 posted on 01/05/2012 11:47:23 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SandRat

Is that even possible? I’m not sure you can court martial a retired officer, unless it happened while he was active.


6 posted on 01/05/2012 11:49:33 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: SandRat
I'll never understand how people like this can live with themselves....
7 posted on 01/05/2012 11:50:05 AM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: SandRat

Amen to that!


8 posted on 01/05/2012 11:51:54 AM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: SandRat

He is, indeed, a disgrace. FWIW, officers don’t get punitive discharges pursuant to courts martial, they get dismissed. Also, you can’t reduce an officer in rank via court martial sentence; however, in the Air Force we do a rank determination to determine at what grade the member honorably served. That’s why Col Mike Murphy, an AF JAG, retired as an O-1 (second lieutenant) after it was discovered that he’d been disbarred. Long, sad story (I sat second chair to him my first few courts-martial as a JAGlet and was floored when the charges came to light).

Colonel, USAFR


9 posted on 01/05/2012 11:53:33 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: edpc

You’re correct.


10 posted on 01/05/2012 11:54:55 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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As a Retired Field Grade officer I am still subject to Courts Martial for any crimes I commit even if those crimes were committed after Retirement and bring disgrace on the service.
11 posted on 01/05/2012 11:56:26 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Don’t know a thing about this gentleman but seeing how this is coming from Arizona and somtimes, just sometimes mind you, there is a lot more to the story than meets the eye.


12 posted on 01/05/2012 11:57:08 AM PST by Cyman
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This guy would make the ethics of the average prison inmate look good by comparison. Incredible.


13 posted on 01/05/2012 11:57:08 AM PST by colorado tanker
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He is still in the inactive reserve. If the Army wants a piece of him, he can get called up to active duty then tried by courts martial.

Since it is a crime under federal jurisdiction he can also be charged and tried in a federal court.

14 posted on 01/05/2012 11:57:54 AM PST by pfflier
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Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne says a retired colonel has been charged with stealing $2 million from a fund to help families of national guard soldiers deployed overseas.

Wow! That is very low. I was thinking it was some corporate theft, but to steal from the troops is absolutely disgusting. He deserves whatever happens. I am surprised they made him an E-1. I didn’t know officers could go to E-1. I thought he would be an O-1.


15 posted on 01/05/2012 11:58:19 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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You two can settle this, I think.


16 posted on 01/05/2012 11:59:19 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: SandRat

Juan McLame will be all OVER this in 5 .. 4 .. 3 .. 2 .. 1 ..


17 posted on 01/05/2012 12:02:24 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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“Is that even possible? I’m not sure you can court martial a retired officer, unless it happened while he was active.”

He sure as hell can be grought on stealing, retired or not.


18 posted on 01/05/2012 12:05:47 PM PST by DaveA37
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A General Courts Martial under the UCMJ is authorized at the sentencing hearing to reduce him to the lowest enlisted rank, imprsion, and order the forfeiture of all pay allowances and benefits,
19 posted on 01/05/2012 12:06:02 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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“Is that even possible? I’m not sure you can court martial a retired officer, unless it happened while he was active.”

He sure as hell can be brought on stealing, retired or not.


20 posted on 01/05/2012 12:06:15 PM PST by DaveA37
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