Posted on 01/02/2012 3:12:20 PM PST by i88schwartz
"Once they get a hold of the crazy things he's said and done like taking his two-hour old baby who died right after childbirth home and played with it for a couple of hours so his other children would know that the child was real," Democratic commentator Alan Colmes said on FOX News today. "That's a cheap shot, Alan. To say it's crazy, something that's that personal and hurtful as losing a child and to mock it like that is beyond the pale and beneath you," Colmes' conservative opponent Rich Lowry said after the personal attack. “I even think some of the dastardly characters we have in the main stream media are not going to go as low as you just have Alan,” National Review editor Rick Lowry said later in the conversation.
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Have you ever read IN THE VAULT by HP LOVECRAFT? A truly eerie tale.
Have you never seen tiny gravesites? It used to be the practice to bury all children who died. In fact, a “January baby” was a child to be worried about, in case the baby was born in winter.
One of my aunts ‘had’ to get married at 17, to a terrible man. The baby was stillborn, but she buried the baby. And she stayed in the marriage and had 3 more children, two girls and a boy.
People handle grief in different ways. Real, heart-wrenching grief, for example, has caused more than one person to burn his own house down or go kill himself.
I grew up with a girl whose older brother was killed in a car crash. The parents left his bedroom as he had left it that day—for years.
My parents insisted that I kiss my dead relatives on the cheek while they were in their caskets. Wakes were routine.
I had to go to so many funerals at a young age that for a while I just quit going. But, I always touch the person who is dead. Like marriage, death itself has rituals that need respect.
I think the mechanics of sitting dear-departed grandma in a chair would be difficult. Hence the laying in an open-casket (representing a bed of sorts?) and viewed at the funeral home or one’s house is a more age-appropriate thing. Along with dressing the deceased, putting on makeup, hairstyling, etc.
And as been mentioned up thread, holding, touching, talking to, etc. And perhaps more important when it is a baby that the siblings otherwise may have never seen.
I suppose if it were me - it would be to somehow instill in my kids that this death IS a BIG deal to Mom and Dad - the loss of the baby is no different than the loss of one of you children. So when mom or dad breaks down crying making sandwiches for you kids 6-months from now, maybe you’ll understand just a little and don’t think that we are over-reacting.
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Alan Colmes, like many Leftists, is a mean-spirited, no-class, even evil person at heart. No worthwhile human being could justify his personal insults of Santorum and his family. Colmes owes Santorum a public apology to match his insult.
I cannot stand SYFI channel as the movies are so hokey.
BUT when the original TWILIGHT ZONE comes on, CANCEL all my appointments! I saw shows I still remember from 55 years ago!
The Obsolete man (Burgess Meridith) is one of many I recall. I often consider myself to be an Obsolete man using George Bernard Shaw’s definition.
And (”I’m Talky Tina and you better be nice to me!”)
Isn’t it interesting they could make such shows with dialog that stick with you WITHOUT all the glitzy special affects.
So many good actors got their start there!
Since you've crossed the threshold of name calling it's apparent you are not speaking from a RATIONAL point of view.
Of course a dead baby deserves to be honored and given a proper funeral.
However, to suggest that bringing home this dead baby, no bigger than a baker potato, and cuddling with it...with your other children...is not, at LEAST extremely unusual and weird shows that you are the one out of touch with reality.
In all my years I have never even HEARD of such a thing. I've known of/about at least a dozen miscarriages.
I believe it to be freaky weird. Sick.
I believe, again, that AT LEAST 90% of the people in this country will agree with me that's it's sick.
Maybe it's a cultural thing. I am WASP.
“Having been a newborn ICU nurse, it’s not weird at all. “
So, just how MANY times are you saying you were personally aware of such activity?
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Are you Alan in disguise? You’re seriously ignorant and I’m sickened by your responses. You have no idea the reverence we treated infants with that died and I’ll just leave you to speculate. Oh, and the horror- we took their pictures! And a little trivia- purple was the best background color. We must have been some seriously sick individuals to have pictures for moms that ofttimes never got to see or touch their baby. /sarc
Newbie.
Colmes would undoubtedly think I’m also a sick twisted person because I kissed my mother on the forehead shortly after she died. Colmes apparently thinks that displaying any significant amount of human compassion disqualifies a person as a ‘progressive’. To be consistent in his beliefs, Colmes should insist that he and his family be consigned to landfills immediately upon their deaths so that they can regenerate nature most efficiently, rather than sequestering them with burial or polluting the earth through incineration.
Another practice that I’m sure that Alan Colmes would find infinitely preferable is to have himself and his family dissolved in a lye solution immediately upon their deaths, and then poured down sewer drains. This is after, of course, they are completely harvested for all vital organs. I’m just thinking like a true Progressive of which Alan Colmes pretends to be one here.
Of course, Alan Colmes and his family could always have their worthless carcasses thrown into medical waste dumpsters upon their deaths, like he insists that stillborn infants by others be.
Once.
Makes sense. Thanks for a logical, reasonable answer to my question. I appreciate it.
Or Colmes and his family could feed each other to large wild animals upon their deaths. Or they could compost each other. See, there are so many Leftist approved solutions for disposing of themselves that they really need to consider before they criticize any non Leftist nutcases regarding their practices.
Mr Marbles?
Agreed.
What do these people see as the preferred procedure? Toss the child’s body into a trash can? Request that a mortician “take care of this thing”?
As it happens the scumbag Holmes’ reference to “playing with” the dead child was a despicable smear. The family, as Santorum himself has pointed out, brought the child to their residence for an at-home funeral, in part to acknowledge and commemorate that a loved one was lost, and that this child WAS loved and would always be a part of them all.
This seems to me to be healthy, dignified and blessedly affectionate.
This is the way the left works. Years ago when my congressman was running for a state senate seat his infant granddaughter died. They immediately questioned why he was campaigning and not home taking care of his family like a normal “man of God” would do.
Seems that I read that the left did the same with Calvin Coolidge.
I’ve also Read that Abraham and Mary Lincoln often opened the casket of their son for months after his death.
“In other words you heard of it.
Once.”
No, but if it bothers you I’d rather you speculate it happened a million times than give you a count from my memory because it does a disservice to those precious babies. I just heard on Fox News that Santorum’s wife was a neonatal nurse, by the way. Again, you’re ignorant. Try educating yourself.
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