Blind to their Liberal Biases

Townhall.com ^ | December 30, 2011 | David Limbaugh

[Old Retired Army Guy]

I learned a long time ago that you are wasting your time debating a liberal. It is the old line of “don’t confuse me with facts, my mind is made up”. I have a brother who is a retired school teacher and lives in CA. He is a died in the wool Democrat and I learned long ago not to talk politics with him as it is like talking to a wall. Once in awhile, I email him little humorous digs about his party and liberal positions, but his response is usually “mute”. Bottom line is we aren’t going to change Liberals opinions, we just have to outnumber them.

[bytesmith]

Many leftists are so possessed by a need to be morally superior that they can’t abide the possibility that conservatives also have noble intentions. So it is that many who believe they are objective, fair and reality-based are far less so than the objects of their scorn.

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There is the money statement.

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[no-to-illegals]

Good article from David. Slightly disagree that the intentions of liberals or progressives (whatever name is being used by them) are intentions of good. After fifty plus years of liberals enacting policy which have harmed not helped society, liberals have a track record. One would have to believe liberals would accept their failures and take credit where credit is due them for the harm, though liberals always have an excuse and say (normally) more of the same failure and harm would have been eliminated if the republicans had not stood in the way.

[thulldud]

One would have to believe liberals would accept their failures and take credit where credit is due them for the harm, though liberals always have an excuse and say (normally) more of the same failure and harm would have been eliminated if the republicans had not stood in the way.

It puts me in mind of the proverb, "He who wills the means, wills the end."

[Common Sense 101]

“Many leftists are so possessed by a need to be morally superior that they can’t abide the possibility that conservatives also have noble intentions.”

Herein lies one of the greatest paradoxes of liberalism… exactly HOW can one portend to suggest they are morally superior when they openly espouse moral relativism or worse, immorality?

[skeeter]

Excellent article, although I am even more skeptical of the typical liberal’s intentions - good intentions and the intense contempt they obviously feel towards those with different points of view cannot coexist within the same brain.

[exDemMom]

Bottom line is we aren’t going to change Liberals opinions, we just have to outnumber them.

I wouldn't say that we should give up on liberals. Many young people are taught to be liberal, but as they mature and begin to really experience the world, they leave liberalism behind. If no one would take the time to explain to them what conservativism is, they might not have that chance to mature.

[chesley]

Even Hitler probably thought that he was doing good. If “good intentions” could get us into heaven, the he would be there along with everybody else.

Nobody (well maybe Anton LaVey and Aleister Crowely) wants to think of themselves as evil or bad.

[Dutch Boy]

I belong to an email discussion group that has 3 far left liberals. Try as I might, they would not believe facts if it went against their ideology. Data directly from census reports, the IRS and video clips of speeches, or interviews was not proof. None of it mattered. I gave up trying to teach. Now I do not respond. The other conservatives have done the same. It’s interesting how the libs argue when there are no conservative to gang up on.

You are right, the indoctrinated ones will not change, we need to outnumber them and drive them from power. I’m sure you have seen the You Tube video of the KGB agent in the 80’s explaining this very thing. It’s been on FR many times.

[grey_whiskers]

College Liberal

Cheers!

[chimera]

I wouldn't say that we should give up on liberals. Many young people are taught to be liberal, but as they mature and begin to really experience the world, they leave liberalism behind. If no one would take the time to explain to them what conservativism is, they might not have that chance to mature.

Interesting point. I am reminded of the recent attempts by conservative students to get satirical petitions signed to "redistribute excessive GPA" (you can see some of the videos on Youtube). The liberal students they encountered who refused to sign it literally went into brain freeze when confronted by the contradictions in their "beliefs". They got that deer-in-the-headlights look and usually walked away muttering "it's not the same thing as taxes". But you could see the utter astonishment in their faces that, first, someone would actually challenge their liberal beliefs using reason and logic, and, second, that they might be right.

[no-to-illegals]

Having been taught, when was young by my parents, and because of my Conservative background, a realization exists each (including me) is human and humans fail. Being a human one should be more than willing to come forward and say, “I was mistaken, and I made a mistake.” Because of my upbringing I do admit mistakes. Cannot remember the last time I witnessed this or the above quote from a liberal, whereupon a liberal admitted a mistake. Being human, all make mistakes. Liberals must think they are gods, and their attitudes do point out their failings because even not I am morally superior, though sometimes (being human) makes me believe I am (a mistake) when not. Now I’ve gone and sounded like a moderate and that is the worst mistake of all (LOL).

[central_va]

Liberalism is like a speaking/language regional accent. Everyone in lower Alabama has the same accent then a NE Yankee is the weird one. The lower Alabaman’s wouldn’t admit that their thick twang was an accent at all, they were the one speaking “normally”, that dang Yankee talks funny(which is true).

[MrB]

What’s funny about liberals is that they don’t understand the concept of a “worldview” as a lens of assumptions through which all input is filtered and subsequently all conclusions are reached.
Their mindset, I guess, is that what they assume or believe “just is”, and has nothing to do with presuppositions. Since they can’t self-examine and accept that they have said presuppositions, there’s no way to get them to understand that others have other presuppositions.

Others are either “stupid”, “wrong”, or downright “evil”.

[MrB]

Liberals must think they are gods

Liberalism was introduced to the world with this statement: "you will be as gods, knowing good and evil".

[no-to-illegals]

You are correct. The snake in the garden did say that.

[chesley]

It is true. Liberals CANNOT admit that they are mistaken.
To do so puts them on the road to reality, a place they cannot abide.

[wintertime]

In fact, every human being — and thus every professor — has a worldview, and that worldview will inevitably influence his perception of the material. Every professor will have made critical intellectual decisions on a multitude of issues in the material, all of which will be influenced by his worldview.
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Axiom: Every sentient being has a religious worldview. It is either a godless worldview or a God-centered one, and neither is religiously neutral in content or consequences!

Corollary: **ALL** schools have religious worldview ( godless or God-centered)

Corollary : **NO** school is religiously neutral in content or consequences!

Corollary: When government owns and runs schools it will establish the religious worldview of the most politically powerful and crush the religious worldview of the less politically connected.

I have been hammered here on Free Republic ( even by conservatives) for my use of the words “all”, “every” and “none”...So?...If anyone has a link to an exception for my statement above please post it. I will be quick to apologize.

[no-to-illegals]

Once upon a time there was a disagreement between us. Will not state what it was, for (imho) it was minor. I would like to state, I make no apology for the stand taken, though would also like to state I took no offense though my posts (in the matter) may have shown otherwise. If I offended you, you have my sincerest apology though I will not apologize for the stance I took. My prayer is you will understand, and a Good Day and Happy New Year to you and yours.