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To: AmericanVictory

Big Rubio supporter for future higher office and not a fan of the birther movement - thus I have extrapilated that he does not interpret the “natural born” phrase the way you do.

Neither does Coulter, and before you go off on her leftward movement lately - which I admit is happening - she is a Constitutional scholar of some merit.

I do not know what Bork or Scalia would say about it, but I can’t imagine they would interpret the “NBC” language as you do and keep it silent, since regardless of whether Barry Sotero was born in Hawaii or not, his father clearly puts him outside your interpretation.


24 posted on 12/29/2011 4:47:28 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Coulter is a sell out and is for hire. Coulter is a hack. No one is impressed with her background as she clearly is a HACK and poses as a Conservative.


28 posted on 12/29/2011 4:49:56 PM PST by show
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Big Rubio supporter for future higher office and not a fan of the birther movement - thus I have extrapilated that he does not interpret the “natural born” phrase the way you do.

Levin definitely doesn't support birthers. Last I heard him, he banned them from his show and perhaps his forums as well.

And yeah, Levin was very clear that as Rubio was born in the US he is a natural born citizen. Period. I believe Levin is a constitutional scholar and does not buy the birther interpretation of what an NBC is.

Birther conspiracies are a silly waste of time. The issue is a giant loser and will never go anywhere.

36 posted on 12/29/2011 4:57:25 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: C. Edmund Wright
As with Levin, I have heard Coulter attack and castigate those who question the eligibility of the man who occupies the Oval Office, referring to them pejoratively and castigating them as "birthers" and even calling them believers in a conspiracy, which latter, by the way, I do not believe she has described. But, as with Levin, I find these unexplained and irrational attacks a poor substitute for rational analysis.

At least with Mark Levin he actually engages in constitutional litigation. It is not clear that Coulter actually does so.

I am puzzled by your statement that the father of the man occupying the Oval Office clearly puts him, the man so occupyig that office, outside of an interpretation that you say is mine. Just out of curiousity, what interpretation do you attibute to me that the man in the Oval Office is outside of and that is attributable to his father, the Kenyan?

I find the point you are trying to make a bit difficult to follow.

128 posted on 12/29/2011 6:48:50 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Big Rubio supporter for future higher office and not a fan of the birther movement - thus I have extrapilated that he does not interpret the “natural born” phrase the way you do.

Neither does Coulter, and before you go off on her leftward movement lately - which I admit is happening - she is a Constitutional scholar of some merit.

I do not know what Bork or Scalia would say about it, but I can’t imagine they would interpret the “NBC” language as you do and keep it silent, since regardless of whether Barry Sotero was born in Hawaii or not, his father clearly puts him outside your interpretation.

I believe it is a fallacy to assume that anyone who is a constitutional scholar has done in depth research as to the correct meaning of the article II term "natural born citizen." I think that unless someone specifically researches it, they will simply accept the oft repeated and most common assumption that birth in the geographical boundaries is all that is required.

I would be surprised if Ann Coulter or ANY of the supreme court justices were actually knowledgeable on this specific aspect of the Constitutional.

I know I am learning new bits and pieces regarding it every week or so. Just yesterday I was made aware of an example where James Madison wrote on the issue (regarding a man who was born here, but denied American citizenship in 1812.) in another thread. I am virtually certain that neither Ann Coulter nor any Supreme Court Justices are even aware of this case.

219 posted on 12/30/2011 10:29:58 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus sequitur Patrem)
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