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OPERATION CHAOS!

More evidence for closed primaries/caucuses?

1 posted on 12/26/2011 4:38:26 PM PST by TBBT
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Yes, and he may well end up winning VA too! (snicker)


2 posted on 12/26/2011 4:43:13 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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The GOP does not want them all closed.

They feed on having cross-over and Independent votes in blue and purple states. Otherwise, they’ll be stuck with very Conservative candidates.


3 posted on 12/26/2011 4:44:08 PM PST by TitansAFC (Mitt Romney gets less bang for the buck than John-Freaking-Huntsman.)
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Paul leading among Democrats and independents who plan to vote in the January 10 primary.

I agree - close the votes. Leftists have no business voting in GOP elections.

4 posted on 12/26/2011 4:44:28 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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I am a strict-constructionist conservative who has voted for Ron Paul every time I see his name on the ballot. Then again, I have admitted defeat to the marxists who have been overtaking our government and culture for decades. We live in interesting times. Tweeking will not solve our problems and overhaul will be met with anarchy due to the now dominant dependent class that we have so laboriously constructed.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 4:44:53 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I'm a Conservative not a Republican with that said this Paul thing baffles me. I can't see why the GOP hasn't drafted Nader to oppose Paul...
7 posted on 12/26/2011 4:54:41 PM PST by montanajoe
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There is a serious consideration that everyone should make about Ron Paul. First make a list of things he is advocating that you *like*, and the things you *don’t like*.

Second, and this is the important part. Which items on *both* lists can a president actually do? Remember that the POTUS is *not* omnipotent, nor as much as Obama wants, he is not a dictator.

The president does not appropriate money, nor does he really write a budget, other than a wish list. This is why so many presidential budgets are called “dead on arrival”, because congress quite properly ignores them.

In fact, if you look at the office of the presidency, what presidents enjoy most is doing the *unconstitutional* things that they are doing. And they do plenty of them.

Importantly, if Ron Paul stands for anything, it is opposition to the blatantly unconstitutional. So ask yourself, will he do what other presidents have done and ignore the constitution?

Will he issue the horribly unconstitutional “presidential signing statements” that Obama railed against as a candidate, but just a day or two ago went hog-wild with?

The bottom line, that many voters may grasp, is that for his many faults, he has made a career about following the constitution, not evading it.

Can any other Republican be trusted to do that?

And in the final analysis, if the president does not obey the constitution, does it matter what else he does?


8 posted on 12/26/2011 5:03:55 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Open political associations are stupid.

It’s like living in a big house on the edge of the ‘hood, and putting a big sign in the front yard that says, “Anyone who wants can live here.” And then acting shocked when you can’t stand living in your own house any more because the riff-raff have taken over.


16 posted on 12/26/2011 5:26:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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I think the mischief slows down in South Carolina, which is an open primary state, but one I believe has less Paultards than IO & NH. And the mischief comes to a complete halt - at least temporarily - in Florida, where only Republicans can vote in the primary, and registration closes a few weeks before Florida’s January 29 primary, at January 3rd.

But Paul can do a lot of damage in the meantime. If Paul deprives Gingrich of victories in both IO & NH, then Gingrich will have to hang on and maintain momentum sufficient to win South Carolina & Florida, states where he is presently the polling favorite. I hope Gingrich makes it; but if he doesn’t, it will be Paul who caused Romney to win the nomination.


17 posted on 12/26/2011 5:28:58 PM PST by BCrago66
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Well, it surely ain’t Democrats.

Nearly all Democrats are totally against 95% of what Ron Paul stands for, and for what Ron Paul is going to do.

The Democrats do not want to eliminate 5 federal departments, the Democrats do not want strict Constitutional Supreme Court Justices, the Democrats do not want a repeal of the 1934 and 1968 Gun Control Acts, they do not want a trillion dollar cut in federal spending, they do not want the income tax eliminated, the Democrats do not want welfare eliminated, etc etc etc


18 posted on 12/26/2011 5:30:20 PM PST by CGalen
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Eric’s website:
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/


22 posted on 12/26/2011 5:40:36 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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“Mischief” voters can elect a transexual as their high school Prom Queen and Arnold Schwarzenegger as governor of California, and so I have little doubt they can keep pushing Ron Paul into the limelight. But get him elected President? I don’t think so.

Electing a “community organizer” from Chicago as President and Commander-in-Chief took a lot more than just “mischief” voters - - it took a carelessness and stupidity among the general electorate that portends the decline of a once proud and great nation. America is most certainly in decline, but Ron Paul is simply not as funny as a transexual, an Austrian action movie star, or a community organizer from Chicago.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 5:46:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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I believe that if Ron Paul were given a thorough, professional, unswerving mental exam he would be found to be crazier than an outhouse rat! That being the case, what does that say for Iowa voters if they would waste their vote on a turdbrain like that?

Oooops! Never mind! They wasted it on a previous turdbrain for POTUS in 2008! It must be congenital!


27 posted on 12/26/2011 6:06:43 PM PST by Tucker39
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“OPERATION CHAOS!”

LOL! Ron Paul brings thousands of new voters to the party, and the gop does what it can to bar the doors.


29 posted on 12/26/2011 6:12:24 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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From the article...

So who is supporting Paul? In New Hampshire, Paul is the choice of just 13 percent of Republicans, according to the new poll, while he is the favorite of 36 percent of independents and 26 percent of Democrats who intend to vote in the primary. Paul leads in both non-Republican categories.

"Paul is doing the best job of getting those people who aren't really Republicans but say they're going to vote in the Republican primary," explains Smith. Among that group are libertarians, dissatisfied independents and Democrats who are "trying to throw a monkey wrench in the campaign by voting for someone who is more philosophically extreme," says Smith.

Paul tops the field when pollsters ask Republicans which candidate they are certain not to support. "When you ask people which candidate they are least likely to vote for, Ron Paul is pretty high, because most Republicans here really don't want to vote for him," says Smith. "His support is not coming, by and large, from Republican voters."

This is an intriguing premise. Paul gets many Democrat and Independent votes in the GOP primary. So if Paul were to run as an independent, he probably would get those Democrat and Independent voters. This overstates his support in the primaries, and he probably wouldn't hurt the GOP much in the general election, either.

39 posted on 12/26/2011 9:20:46 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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Seems like this would help conservatives. If the liberal, open-primary states go for Paul, that would deal greater blows to Romney than to Newt. If Newt wins the conservative states then it would seem he is thrust to frontrunner status. I’m not sure if Paul would come out on top if he won every blue state or not, which I guess would be the only danger. Newt can make Romney his V.P. to assuage the establishment if he doesn’t get over 50%.


40 posted on 12/26/2011 9:54:48 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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I, and others, have been saying this for some time now: (Apologies for Freepers who support Paul...well, almost! lol)...

There is NO way "Real" Conservatives would ever support the Anti-Semite, Isolationist, Truther, Nutcase.

As his support comes mostly from young people; and as younguns don't usually tend to be Republicans or lean Conservative, this was not that difficult to conclude that it was more than likely independents and Liberal Tools who wanted to create mischief and influence the outcome of the primaries.

After knocking off Bachman, Perry and Cain, the only "somewhat" Conserevative left is Newt and as the RATS and Dear Leader (aided and abetted by the biased, Lame Stream Media) want Mittens to get the nod, they will stoop to any level to see that comes to pass

The answer? Closed primaries everywhere!

44 posted on 12/27/2011 12:47:04 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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"More evidence for closed primaries/caucuses?"

It has to be RATS voting for the NUT CASE.
I never understood why all states don't require closed primaries.

45 posted on 12/27/2011 2:17:48 AM PST by DeaconRed (Hound Dog Howling . . . Bull Frog Croaking -- Everything is broken--Thanks to ZERO)
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