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TSA screenings aren't just for airports anymore [read this]
LAT ^ | December 20, 2011 | Brian Bennett

Posted on 12/26/2011 3:52:36 PM PST by upchuck

The Transportation Security Administration isn't just in airports anymore. TSA teams are increasingly conducting searches and screenings at train stations, subways, ferry terminals and other mass transit locations around the country...

The TSA's 25 "viper" teams — for Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response — have run more than 9,300 unannounced checkpoints and other search operations in the last year. Department of Homeland Security officials have asked Congress for funding to add 12 more teams next year.

According to budget documents, the department spent $110 million in fiscal 2011 for "surface transportation security," including the TSA's viper program, and is asking for an additional $24 million next year. That compares with more than $5 billion for aviation security.

TSA officials say they have no proof that the roving viper teams have foiled any terrorist plots or thwarted any major threat to public safety. But they argue that the random nature of the searches and the presence of armed officers serve as a deterrent and bolster public confidence.

But critics say that without a clear threat, the TSA checkpoints are merely political theater. Privacy advocates worry that the agency is stretching legal limits on the government's right to search U.S. citizens without probable cause — and with no proof that the scattershot checkpoints help prevent attacks.

"It's a great way to make the public think you are doing something," said Fred H. Cate, a professor at the Indiana University Maurer School of Law, who writes on privacy and security. "It's a little like saying, 'If we start throwing things up in the air, will they hit terrorists?'"

Last month in Orlando, Fla., a team set up metal detectors at a Greyhound bus station and tested passengers' bags for explosive residue.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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"But they argue that the random nature of the searches and the presence of armed officers serve as a deterrent and bolster scare the public. confidence."

Sorry, just had to fix that. This is so wrong.

1 posted on 12/26/2011 3:52:40 PM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck
I predicted this when Dubya passed the Patriot Act.

They would start in the airports to get us accustomed and acquiescent to it, then they would expand it until there was a TSA goon on every corner asking to see your papers.

And all the street-corner TSA goons will be Eric Holder's people. Count on it.

2 posted on 12/26/2011 3:55:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: upchuck; SteelTrap; JustSayNoToNannies; Dr. Morrall; pa_dweller; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; ..

Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here.

3 posted on 12/26/2011 4:00:33 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: upchuck
I added this to my homepage ten years ago, when the Patriot Act was passed.

Welcome to President George Dubya Bush's
HOMELAND PENITENTIARY
Where Everyone Is a Suspect (Except Muslims)
ANTI-TERROR ÜBER ALLES
We've got your numberTM


4 posted on 12/26/2011 4:01:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: upchuck

...Just be glad you’re still allowed to pass this on without censorship.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 4:02:48 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: upchuck

I’ll vote for whoever will fight this madness...


6 posted on 12/26/2011 4:04:27 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: upchuck

Flying is an ordeal at every level. The TSA is a part of it, and particularly annoying, but just about everything from the point of leaving my home to the point of actually walking through the door of my destination is a chore.

I just try to not travel very much. It works for me.


7 posted on 12/26/2011 4:05:10 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: gargoyle

For now...


8 posted on 12/26/2011 4:05:10 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: upchuck
Well done.

Not only expansion of the TSA, but hiring of thousands of IRS agents and DHS grants to local law enforcement agencies across the country to provide military grade weaponry, body armor, vehicles and surveillance such as unmanned aerial drones.

WTF is going on?

9 posted on 12/26/2011 4:06:32 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: upchuck

So after 11 years of this terrorist BS, we need a President or candidate that is actually going to change the direction of this Patriot Act, to one that represents the wishes of a free (not scared) people, and that which makes us the “Most free country in the world”? Otherwise freedom is just a USA marketing slogan.

Having SWAT (or whatever the latest LE buzzword is) teams with automatic weapons on every American corner, monitoring us, and at every train station scanning and asking for ID please is not my idea of freedom. Once this movement to steal our freedom starts, there is no end unless the guy on top says so.

We need to have an open and very public debate on why this movement to muzzle and handcuff all Americans as potential bad guys continues unabated.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 4:07:35 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: GOPJ

...Yea, that part was a given. (-;)


11 posted on 12/26/2011 4:10:33 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: upchuck
is asking for an additional $24 million next year

Make that, "HELL NO!

12 posted on 12/26/2011 4:15:59 PM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: rabscuttle385

...STERMABTEILUNG.


13 posted on 12/26/2011 4:17:34 PM PST by gargoyle (...a well informed public and a well regulated militia...)
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To: All
This crap needs to stop. Everyone needs to read this book.
Or at least watch this. Frontline Top Secret America.
14 posted on 12/26/2011 4:20:48 PM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward

If the only people subjected to it are Muslims, I’m all for it.


15 posted on 12/26/2011 4:25:25 PM PST by T. Jefferson (Batton down the hatches, full speed in reverse)
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To: upchuck
Big Sis must watch this clip over and over, hoping for the day when she can do this herself: "Papers Please"
16 posted on 12/26/2011 4:28:11 PM PST by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: T. Jefferson

It won’t be...it will be you and me. Not sure how I will handle it.


17 posted on 12/26/2011 4:30:11 PM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: T. Jefferson

It won’t be...it will be you and me. Not sure how I will handle it.


18 posted on 12/26/2011 4:30:22 PM PST by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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To: T. Jefferson

Yeah, sure, like THAT is going to happen. It will likely be the opposite, and they will be exempt.


19 posted on 12/26/2011 4:30:37 PM PST by Zarro (Recall EVERYONE in Congress voting for the NDAA 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385
Which is why I've been telling people (that say they care about our Liberty, Freedom, & US Constitution) to simply stop flying on commercial airlines. (Obviously if you have to fly to earn your living it is a different case, unless you can find a way to earn a living without flying.) No one seems to want to give up their "pleasure" trips to wherever though. I knew that the airports were just step one, after a bit of mild squawking everyone just falls into line and accepts the tyranny. People need to stop accommodating these monsters. If I can't drive to a destination, no matter what, I simply don't go.

I wonder if being stopped on the highways or at train stations is going to wake some more people up? Sadly, I doubt it at this point.

20 posted on 12/26/2011 4:31:29 PM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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