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Demographic Reversal Will Finish The Welfare State
IBD Editorials ^ | December 23, 2011 | MARK STEYN

Posted on 12/23/2011 5:51:32 PM PST by Kaslin

Our lesson for today comes from the Gospel according to Luke. No, no, not the manger, the shepherds, the wise men, any of that stuff, but the other birth:

"But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John."

That bit of the Christmas story doesn't get a lot of attention, but it's in there — Luke 1:13, part of what he'd have called the back story, if he'd been a Hollywood screenwriter rather than a physician.

Of the four gospels, only two bother with the tale of Christ's birth, and only Luke begins with the tale of two pregnancies. Zacharias is surprised by his impending paternity — "for I am an old man and my wife well stricken in years."

Nonetheless, an aged, barren woman conceives and, in the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy, the angel visits her cousin Mary and tells her that she, too, will conceive.

If you read Luke, the virgin birth seems a logical extension of the earlier miracle — the pregnancy of an elderly lady.

The physician-author had no difficulty accepting both. For Matthew, Jesus' birth is the miracle; Luke leaves you with the impression that all birth — all life — is to a degree miraculous and God-given.

We now live in Elisabeth's world — not just because technology has caught up with the deity and enabled women in their 50s and 60s to become mothers, but in a more basic sense.

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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping. Merry Christmas.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


21 posted on 12/23/2011 9:35:34 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: OneWingedShark

So I’m not alone. Blessings.


22 posted on 12/23/2011 9:46:54 PM PST by BenKenobi (You know, you really need to break free of that Catholic mindset.- metmom)
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To: wintertime

>Though not all are;
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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>Government owned and run K-12 schools are godless in their worldview and a socialist-entitlement. Please send me a link to one that is not.

You misunderstood me; I meant not all parents are surrendering their children to the “school” system.

>If a child is to cooperate in one of these government owned and run godless and socialist indoctrination classrooms how can he not think godlessly?
>How would this be possible and still cooperate?

Tell me; is the light banished by darkness?
And how is this any different from God changing the hearts and minds of men as He has for all of Christian history?
(Is not the old man and his thought made new by God’s grace?)

>Why would God save this nation that murders babies before they take their first breath?
>Why would he save a nation that turns its precious children over to the priests and priestesses of Moloch? Why would he listen to the prayers of those who send their children to godless indoctrination centers for 13 or more years?

Now, isn’t that the crux of the conditionality I mentioned in my previous post? God is a Just God, and He will not fail to do right.
But just as Jonah observed, and Jesus proved, God is quick to turn away from anger and punishment, full of mercy.

Don’t get me wrong, I *want* justice (I don’t believe that mercy *CAN* exist w/o Justice); God’s will is don on Earth just as in Heaven... Justice will come.
Until it does though isn’t it the duty of the Christian to “run a rescue shop within a yard of hell” and let Jesus be the Judge?


23 posted on 12/23/2011 9:47:27 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: BenKenobi

>So I’m not alone. Blessings.

Er, no... though I’m a bit confused to which part of the post you’re referring.


24 posted on 12/23/2011 9:52:25 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark; txrefugee

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you”.
Jeremiah 1:5


25 posted on 12/23/2011 10:01:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: JLS

He filled in for Rush today. It was fun radio as always.


26 posted on 12/23/2011 10:03:09 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: Kaslin

As Americans are more beholden to support our immigrants we’ll have less children. And they’ll have more. Pretty complicated.


27 posted on 12/23/2011 10:04:48 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: TwoSwords

“As Americans are more beholden to support our immigrants we’ll have less children.”

We can simply continuing breeding, and the giveaways will be cut back because Americans would qualify for them. Welfare Reform passed when “regular” people started breeding like the urban underclass - they couldn’t be denied the freebies/goodies, and the system couldn’t accommodate the rapidly growing bastard population, so it was “reset”. Look at what has happened to the urban underclass birthrate since.

People who refuse to breed can’t complain about illegal immigration - the illegals are the children they refuse to bear.


28 posted on 12/23/2011 10:10:30 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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29 posted on 12/23/2011 10:15:22 PM PST by narses
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To: kearnyirish2

You really read what I said didn’t you? As Americans carry the immigrants they have less resources for their own family.


30 posted on 12/23/2011 10:21:49 PM PST by TwoSwords
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To: Kaslin

The Mad Tea Party is almost over.


31 posted on 12/23/2011 10:29:56 PM PST by firebrand
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To: OneWingedShark

I’m still waiting for marriage too. :)

As I said peace and blessings.


32 posted on 12/23/2011 10:31:16 PM PST by BenKenobi (You know, you really need to break free of that Catholic mindset.- metmom)
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To: Gene Eric

Yes, I was out of pocket earlier in the week and did not get the guest host schedule. I was hoping he would be on. I believe he said he was on next Thursday too. I am looking forward hearing him then too.


33 posted on 12/23/2011 10:57:20 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Kaslin
"If the problem with socialism is, as Mrs. Thatcher says, that eventually you run out of other people's money, much of the West has advanced to the next stage: It's run out of other people, period."

Steyn does it again.

34 posted on 12/23/2011 11:33:44 PM PST by Neanderthal
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To: Kaslin
But a society that has nothing to die for has nothing to live for. It's no longer a stream, but a stagnant pool.

Interesting choice of words. We worship Jesus as The River Of Life as opposed to Darwinists who worship the gene pool.

35 posted on 12/24/2011 12:43:05 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: reefdiver
Those of us who are childless through no fault of our own despise your world-view.

Just sayin'.

36 posted on 12/24/2011 4:07:51 AM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: TwoSwords

Americans do not carry the immigrants, except for the Muslim” refugees” that Obama is bringing in by the thousands, who go directly onto some form of relief. If we didn’t have the other immigrants who come here to work, many of our states would have a negative birthrate ( more deaths than births ) and we would have not only too few young workers but not enough consumers.

The native birthrate is way too low.

But don’t worry. Planned Parenthood is spending a fortune promoting abortion and birth control among Hispanics and pretty soon their birthrate and attitude towards children will be as bad as that of Anglo Americans.


37 posted on 12/24/2011 4:18:34 AM PST by livius
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To: TwoSwords

I did read it, and my response was that those resources could be expended on our own children as well. Many Americans are opting to do without financial hardship by foregoing children, so those resources are simply given to those that DO have children; we should be inserting ourselves into the latter group. Having children will reduce the amount of income taxes you funnel to the illegals, and give you a claim on the freebies should you ever actually need them. If the system becomes unsustainable (as welfare did), then it will be changed.


38 posted on 12/24/2011 4:45:57 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: OneWingedShark

I agree.


39 posted on 12/24/2011 4:49:59 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: cradle of freedom

Ditto.


40 posted on 12/24/2011 6:22:10 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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