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“Modern governments DO NOT TAKE THE LIFE OF THE ADULTERER, and some of them have done away with the supreme penalty where murder is involved-all of which is further evidence of the direful apostacy that prevails among the peoples who call themselves Christians.” (Mormon Doctrine, 1958 ed., p. 104)

If some people knew what was good for them, they would beg the Mormons to kill them:

“And furthermore, I know that there are transgressors, who, if theyknew themselves, and the ONLY CONDITION upon which they canobtain forgiveness, WOULD BEG OF THEIR BRETHREN TO SHEDTHEIR BLOOD, that the smoke thereof might ascend to God as anOFFERING to appease the wrath that is kindled against them, and that thelaw might have its course. (Sermon by Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses,Vol. 4, pages 53-54; also published in the Deseret News, 1856, page 235)

“In debate, George A. Smith said imprisonment was better than hanging. “I replied, I was opposed to hanging, even if a man kill another, I WILL SHOOT HIM, OR CUT OFF HIS HEAD, SPILL HIS BLOOD on the ground, and let the smoke thereof ascend up to God; and if ever I have the privilege of making a law on that subject, I will have it so.” (History of the Church, by Joseph Smith, Vol. 5, p. 296

The founders of Utah incorporated in the laws of the Territory provisions for the capital punishment of those who wilfully
shed the blood of their fellow men. This law, which is now the law of the State, granted unto the condemned murderer the privilege of choosing for himself whether he die by hanging, or whether he BE SHOT, AND THUS HAVE HIS BLOOD SHED IN HARMONY WITH THE LAW OF GOD; AND THUS ATONE, so far as it is in his power to atone, for the death of his victim. Almost without exception the condemned party chooses the latter death.” (Doctrines of Salvation, by Joseph Fielding Smith, Vol. 1, p. 136)

“The time is coming when justice will be laid to the line and righteousness to the plummet; when we shall ask, ‘Are you for God?’ and if you are not heartily on the Lord’s side, YOU WILL BE HEWN DOWN.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, page 226)

“Shall I tell you the LAW OF GOD in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the PENALTY, under the LAW OF GOD IS DEATH ON THE SPOT. This will ALWAYS BE SO.” (Journal of Discourses, v. 10, p. 110)

“And if any man mingle his seed with the seed of Cane [sic] the ownly [sic] way he could get rid of it or have salvation would be to come forward and have his head cut off & spill his Blood upon the ground it would also take the life of his children...” (Wilford Woodruff’s Journal, recording a speech by Brigham Young, January 16, 1852, typed copy; original located in LDS Church Archives).

“THIS IS LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELVES; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is NECESSARY TO SPILL HIS BLOOD on the earth in order that he may be saved, SPILL IT. Any of you who understand the principles of eternity, if you have sinned a sin REQUIRING THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD, except the sin unto death, would not be satisfied nor rest until your blood SHOULD BE SPILLED, that you might gain that salvation you desire. THAT IS THE WAY TO LOVE MANKIND.” (Sermon by Brigham Young, delivered in the Mormon Tabernacle, Feb. 8, 1857, printed in the Deseret News, Feb. 18, 1857; also reprinted in the Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pp. 219-220)

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A retraction is it, sonny ???

Shall I retract on my objection to Islamic doctrine that kills Christians also ???

and ya did an odd twist of me words there too...

Di ya mean that the Mormon DID indeed get thimselves a bonny law to kill Christians ???

or are ya jest a’sassin’ me as per usual then, sonny ???

and ya accuse others of being in “deep”

Methinks thee is the one in over his head with that false religion called “mormonism”...

But I’ll indulge you..

I’ll play along..

Every Christian was in danger after Joey Smth got his silly self killed in that gunfight/jail break..

The Mormons introduced new blood oaths into their already sick religious rituals...

They swore revenge on the government of the United States for the death of the criminal Joey Smith ...

Remember at that time the Mormons had 5,000 well trained armed to the teeth Islamic type cutthroats in their “army”...the Danites, led by “General” Smith...

while the Uniterd States Army had 8,000 but spread thinly..

The Mormons knew they could easilycut the US Army’s supply lines and pick off the smaller groups of soldiers..

The Mormons in their blood lust rituals also promised they would slit the throat of every non-Moromon..

The terrorist act by the Mormons against 140 Christians on 11 Sept 1857 was part of that blood oath..

The US government had to send in the Army to Utah territory to protect the wagon trains from the murderous thieving Mormons...

But before 1857

and before Joey Smiths ignoble end to his murdering, theiving, womenizing, devil woeshipping days in 1844...

There was the event I aluded to in my previous post...

The one where the Mormons were planning to exterminate every Christian...

The term “extermination” originated with the Mormons...

Sidney Rigdon, first counselor in the First Presidency, had preached his infamous “salt sermon” threatening the dissenters in June. Then on July 4, 1838, he warned that there could be “a war of extermination” against anyone abusing the Mormons.

This was three months prior to the time Boggs issued his order.

LDS historian B. H. Roberts commented on Rigdon’s July 4th speech:

This oration by Sidney Rigdon has always been severely criticized as containing passages that were ill-advised and vehemently bitter. Especially those passages which threatened a war of extermination upon mobs should they again arise to plague the saints (History of the Church, vol. 3, p. 42, footnote).

In his speech, after speaking of the persecution that church members had suffered, Rigdon threatened:

We take God and all the holy angels to witness, this day, that we warn all men, in the name of Jesus Christ to come on us no more for ever, from this hour we will bear it no more; our rights shall no more be trampled on with impunity; the man, or the set of men who attempt it, do it at the expense of their lives. And that mob that comes on us to disturb us, it shall be between us and them a war of extermination; for we will follow them until the last drop of their blood is spilled; or else they will have to exterminate us, for we will carry the seat of war to their own houses and their own families, and one party or the other shall be utterly destroyed. . . . We this day, then, proclaim ourselves free with a purpose and determination that never can be broken, No, never! No, never! No, never! (Comprehensive History of the Church, by B. H. Roberts, vol. 1, p. 441).

B. H. Roberts acknowledged that Joseph Smith himself approved of Rigdon’s speech:

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No w2ondewr Gov Boggs felt duty bound to protect the citizens of his state of Missouri from the maurauding Mormons..

In October Gov Boggs ordered the Mormons to cease their criminal activity or leave his state or be arrested...

Many of the Mormons refused to stop their murdering and theiving and raids on the peaceful Christians...

Those of the Mormons who left the religion stayed, settled down and changed their ways and prosperred in Missouri..

Those who refused to obey the laws of MO fled to another state to Illinois and continued their lives of crime amd debauchery..

From there some went to Utah..

Those who left Mormonism. stayed in Illinois again changed their ways ans settled down and prosperred peacefully with the others in the state..

The only time locals were upset with the Mormons was when the Mormons stole from them, murdered them or stole away wives and daughters..

If the Mormons had acted decently in public the locals would have left them in peace to live their immoral lives behind closed doors..