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N. Korea's rejection of foreign delegations raises questions about stability
Yonhap ^ | 2011/12/20 | Staff Writer

Posted on 12/20/2011 11:24:01 AM PST by gandalftb

North Korea's decision to not welcome foreign delegations to the funeral of former leader Kim Jong-il has some analysts in South Korea speculating about instability in the North, with the abrupt death of Kim heightening the uncertainty surrounding his untested heir-apparent.

North Korea declared a 13-day mourning period through Dec. 29 from the day of Kim's death on Saturday, while stating it will not accept foreign delegations at a state funeral set for Dec. 28 in Pyongyang. No entertainment will be allowed during the mourning period.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.yonhapnews.co.kr ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
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To: gandalftb

How stupid and cheap of them. January 1 is already a national holiday in North Korea. At least they could have the decency to the workers, to the 99%, to make the holiday on 2 January to make it a double vacation streak. But then, anyone in the Korean Workers Party to suggest that would probably be sent to Camp #14, along with their entire family.


21 posted on 12/20/2011 3:57:56 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump!


22 posted on 12/20/2011 3:58:22 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: gandalftb; TigerLikesRooster

I have footage from Japanese TV shot by surreptitious camera, at Dandong along the North Korean border with China on the Chinese side, showing increased Chinese border guard presence, invariably to stop refugees seeing their chance, in an effort to return them to DPRK whereupon they would surely be torture, executed and maybe even their organs taken out for reselling. This footage aired last night on Japanese TV here. Another thing. There is a large contingent of Third World and even Brit, Canadian, French and Australian embassies in Pyongyang. To my knowledge their phone lines are still up. Will they be temporarily expelled? Will they be told to stay in their embassies? What if one of them expresses a desire to either attend the funeral of Kim Jong il at the Ambassadorial level or to go to a memorial set up for him to lay a wreath (such as could be expected from Venezuela and Cuba) and particularly China and Russia. This is weird. Merits close watching.


23 posted on 12/20/2011 4:01:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
SK media reports that foreign embassy staffs in Pyongyang were told to stay put inside their compound. In another report, British diplomats and representative from WFP went to Kumsusan Palace to offer condolence to Kim Jong-il, and were received by Kim Jong-eun. Other diplomats stationed in Pyongyang also turned up to offer condolence.
24 posted on 12/20/2011 4:36:23 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: gandalftb

I can see junior having a “hunting accident” very soon...these people are like 10th century European Nobility, the king dies and all the barons start plotting.


25 posted on 12/20/2011 4:45:34 PM PST by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: GeronL

You’d think meeting these military men (who allegiances aside have risen through the military or at least served), that he would feel a bit embarrassed to hold military ranks like this.

For a person to be unable to feel the emotions of humility, shame and embarrassment will only ever lead to disaster, and this is always a key component of the rise of any dictator.....as well as the fall!


26 posted on 12/20/2011 5:00:57 PM PST by UKrepublican
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To: UKrepublican

The only emotions this guys probably understands is...

contempt

greed

hate


27 posted on 12/20/2011 5:11:48 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You are correct. I saw a report that 2,000 guards were sent to the NK border yesterday.

The Chinese are worried that if there is a leadership confusion, many NKs will make a run for the border.

Rumor has it that Kim Jong-un’s uncle, Jang Song Thaek, will rule behind the scenes.


28 posted on 12/20/2011 5:21:53 PM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: gandalftb

They likely view it as humiliating that their dear leader died before he could finish planning a formal transfer of power,if there was going to be a military coup.....the foreigners would have been invited in,as a show of strength by the ruling faction.

That their keeping this in-house,shows it is not a house divided against itself.


29 posted on 12/20/2011 5:27:43 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: gandalftb
The King is dead, long live the King.

Communism in its purest form. An entire starving nation run by a 20 something with almost no life experience.

And apparently they are all fine with that.

30 posted on 12/20/2011 5:36:15 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: gandalftb

That appears to be the case, yes. Tense border, but very quiet right now. Hordes of North Koreans in Chinese border towns being ordered to return back to North Korea. Many going with flowers and then across the bridge from Dandong, China to the other side. Pyongyang run restaurants closed down for a number of days, in mourning.


31 posted on 12/20/2011 6:00:07 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I like your tagline, he may have been assassinated.

After his stroke 2 years ago, he has been weakening and this was no surprise.

The Kim family is firmly in charge of NK anyway they want it done.


32 posted on 12/20/2011 6:40:50 PM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: doug from upland; Nachum; Cindy; G8 Diplomat; AdmSmith; Dog; nuconvert; Straight Vermonter; ...

“Rumor has it that Kim Jong-un’s uncle, Jang Song Thaek, will rule behind the scenes.”

Reuters is confirming:

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/12/21/korea-north-army-idINDEE7BK05H20111221

“Jang Song-thaek, 65, brother-in-law of Kim Jong-il and the younger Kim’s uncle, is seen as the power behind the throne along with his wife Kim Kyong-hui, Kim Jong-il’s sister. So too is Ri Yong-ho, the rising star of the North’s military and currently its seniormost general.”


33 posted on 12/21/2011 9:29:52 AM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: gandalftb

Not terribly surprising. He’s too young and spent too much time abroad to have formed coalitions for immediate seizure of power.


34 posted on 12/21/2011 9:32:55 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: gandalftb

Considering the age structure, just pick the 3 youngsters: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2822160/posts?page=666#666


35 posted on 12/21/2011 9:50:43 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: gandalftb

I saw a report last night that showed a photo of Jung il on an escalator with his entourage behind him, the 1st person behind him was his sister and behind her was Jung un and then behind was his sister’s husband.
I don’t think she & her husband want jr running the show....ever.


36 posted on 12/21/2011 1:46:44 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Kim Jung-il has a remarkable resemblance to Kim Il-sung and the Kim family may want him for a figurehead to the NK public, PR puposes, ribbon-cutting, etc.


37 posted on 12/21/2011 3:42:00 PM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: gandalftb

possibly, but I don’t think they can have it both ways for long.


38 posted on 12/21/2011 4:46:32 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Agreed, odd that the Chinese were so quick to recognize Kim Jong-un, I thought they would wait until after the funeral.

The Chinese are looking for stability and don’t want a flood of refugees. Most NKs know about the better life in China and would bail if they could.

8 border guards made a run for it last week, the NKs shot two dead. It’s a very unstable game in NK. Right after the Cheonyang incident there were a number of the command staff that were purged. I think the incident was used as a way of testing loyalty for a future purge.

NK is easily the most unstable nuclear power in the world and I think we should all be ready to plug our ears when they melt down.


39 posted on 12/21/2011 7:27:44 PM PST by gandalftb (11th MEU, 2/4 Echo, TRAP Force)
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To: gandalftb

Thank you gandalftb for the update and ping.


40 posted on 12/22/2011 2:39:21 AM PST by Cindy
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