Posted on 12/17/2011 9:50:32 PM PST by bruinbirdman
Don’t look for help from OUR KELO Supreme Court.
They’ll send marshals to move you or kill you just as quick as the Chinese.
What’s the Chinese word for posse? Looks like they got one.
Just wake me when the People (us or them) have had enough and start shooting back.
What's Mandarin for "not going to end well"?
It’s easier to smuggle information out than in the Tiananmen days. China will try to disappear it, but this time it won’t be disappeared.
Remember when we defeated communists by isolating them economically and politically? Anybody?
WHERE are the Occupy folks on this. Hell they should be occupying the Chinese Embassy!
nonono, the commies are occupy’s friends.
Yes, Wukan!
lol!
I bet the supporters of Communist China (Free Traders) are rooting for the Commie govt to pull this one out.
Be nice if this was the start of getting the Communists out in China. Too bad the Free Traders and Globalists support the Communist Chinese
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Or they will remove the media, turn off the Internet, remove troops from the surrounding area, and use the village to test the state of their neutron bombs ... again ... “and the village will just ‘disappear’ from Google Earth and nothing more will be heard from anybody.”
Actually, they’re both asking for democracy. China has a totalitarian regime and we have...a totalitarian regime we get to vote on part of every few years. The constitution has been shredded by the very institution it defined to protect it. The Occupy Wall Street protesters are demanding a higher standard to correct that and prevent it from repeating. I hope the people in Wukan achieve control of their government though. They’ll need that to protect their freedom.
I was headed for Beijing when it occurred was stopped in hong kong. During the next few weeks books of photos appeared, smuggled from the mainland. when someone says it wasn’t that bad or it didn’t happen I offer my proof. They are usually ill after just a few pages. The photographers that took and smuggled those photos had spines of steel.
dude.... the whole world was watching when Tiannamen Square happened...
Illuminating excerpt from a 1960’s monograph on the causes of the 12th Century Song Dynasty-era Fang La Rebellion (2m dead on all sides), that broke out Chinese society into three classes:
Yuji Muramatsu, however, has pointed out that “between the two main strata of Chinese society, . . . there seems to have been a third or middle layer of literate but originally powerless intellectuals: monks, priests, jobless lower-degree holders, and the like, including such pseudo-intellectuals as fortunetellers and sorcerers.”31 This third group, he continues, came partly from hermits of upper-class origin and partly from the more enterprising members of the lowest social classes.
A clear definition of this third class will help us to understand the structure of Chinese society in general and peasant rebellions in particular, since almost all rebel leaders came from its ranks. As a class it was made up of monks, priests or fortune-tellers, petty merchants, small landowners, smugglers, government clerks or servants, petty army officers, lower-degree holders, and tutors. Most of the people in these professions had risen through their enterprise from the lowest class but were unable to achieve any standing in the upper class. Although, as Muramatsu suggests, there were “hermits” of upper-class origin-that is, members of the gentry who repudiated its civil obligations without, however, becoming social recluses-they were in spirit detached from the people.
This third class, then, was not a homogeneous one; and while most of its members were in general contented citizens, many cherished some grievance against the government which adverse conditions could aggravate into revolt. Petty merchants and small landowners were the most co-operative as long as the burden of taxation was bearable. Those who worked in local government offices or served in the army took a risky advantage of their position to make illegal profits. At the extreme of illegality were the smugglers, men of adventurous spirit who were tempted by the extent of government monopolies into a profitable criminal career and who operated in armed bands under military discipline. Monks and priests were submissive to authority when their religion was tolerated, but those who propagated unorthodox and officially proscribed religions were naturally hostile to the government. Lower-degree holders and tutors were, of course, frustrated scholars without family background; and though they may have complained of injustice at the examinations, they tended to remain loyal to the government because of the Confucian indoctrination of their studies.
The qualities which these groups had in common were that they were usually more intelligent, more experienced, or financially better off than the majority of the lowest class. Whenever a revolt was in the making, therefore, it was they to whom the people looked for leadership and it was they who took advantage of disturbed conditions to advance their own fortunes.
We may conclude, then, that no single factor alone stirred up a rebellion, although often, when the circumstances were ripe, a single cause may appear to have created the revolt. Among the many symptoms which foreshadow a rebellion, extreme economic pressure and ideological conflict are the most crucial. The personal ambition of the individual rebel leader is the unpredictable spark which may touch off the uprising and his capability is a major force in directing its future course.
The Song Dynasty survived for another 150 years (including 44 years of all-out war with the Mongol army that had sent small detachments marauding through Central Asia, the Mid East, Eastern Europe and Russia). Interestingly enough, the Communist party’s leaders (pre-1949 victory) were all drawn from the third class.
Details, please? I had not heard of such.
NO cheers, unfortunately.
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