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Basically what he says they did, was they jammed the communication link base-to-uav, and when the drone goes into fail-safe auto pilot mode. They spoof the GPS signal to make it think its in friendly territory to land. GPS is very weak signal from Geo Sync sats and is not encrypted. The drone obviously didn't have any other backup navigation like INS, or radio beacons, etc..
1 posted on 12/15/2011 10:32:53 AM PST by alex2011
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GPS is very weak signal from Geo Sync sats and is not encrypted. The drone obviously didn't have any other backup navigation like INS, or radio beacons, etc..

I think I understand what is being suggested here, but aren't military GPS signals encrypted? Wonder how difficult that would be to 'crack'?

2 posted on 12/15/2011 10:36:35 AM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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The Iranians are not quite as stupid as the Iraqis.


3 posted on 12/15/2011 10:38:05 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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This problem can be easily solved. Build a drone as a solid bomb and have them hijack it! Heh heh heh.


4 posted on 12/15/2011 10:40:09 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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Sounds like Tehran Bob is on the air...

We’re led to believe the drone’s signal was blocked, and in reaction it landed intact at an enemy airbase, without new programming.

I’m thinking the drone had backup programing, but I doubt seriously it included landing intact at a random enemy airbase so an enemy could have pristine access to all it’s technology.

This would make a great thing to place on a small paper, and wrap bubble-gum with.


5 posted on 12/15/2011 10:40:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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Not really surprising.

Communications is always the Achilles heel of remote operations, of any kind.

You can bet the Chinese and Russians have been working on a solution for that, for a LONG time.

And it’s also why the idea of a pilotless fighter fleet is just fantasy.


11 posted on 12/15/2011 10:43:35 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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If true, why tell us. If that really was the weak link we can fix it. Why not say nothing and knock a few more down before we caught on?


12 posted on 12/15/2011 10:44:30 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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They might very well have done it. The fact that it landed safely in Iran kind of back up that story. If so, heads ought to roll for not think of that possibility. It still should have been destroyed though...

Mike

17 posted on 12/15/2011 10:49:34 AM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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They might very well have done it. The fact that it landed safely in Iran kind of back up that story. If so, heads ought to roll for not think of that possibility. It still should have been destroyed though...

Mike

19 posted on 12/15/2011 10:51:00 AM PST by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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The drone obviously didn't have any other backup navigation like INS, or radio beacons, etc..

If they were able to spoof the GPS signal, backup navigation systems wouldn't be activated.

20 posted on 12/15/2011 10:54:20 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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If the drone wasn’t over Iranian territory when they hi-jacked it, then that’s an act of war.

Proper retribution would be the complete elimination of the Iranian air force and missle systems.


26 posted on 12/15/2011 10:58:05 AM PST by DannyTN
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It still wouldn’t have happened if Obama hadn’t refused permission to destroy it. He obviously wanted to give Iran and China a little prezzie. First the stealth helicopter that went down in Pokistan, and now this.


27 posted on 12/15/2011 11:00:01 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Basically what he says they did...

Do you believe them?

34 posted on 12/15/2011 11:11:00 AM PST by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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just read a report about this..... a general says the welds are wrong, the landing gear is not shown, and the size is incorrect... this is a mock up, not one of our drones.... remember GI Joe....


35 posted on 12/15/2011 11:10:59 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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Sooooo...does a military drone start to acquire the characteristics of its CIC? Maybe the drone was looking for a spot to take a vacation.


37 posted on 12/15/2011 11:14:55 AM PST by Spok (From hope and change to change is hopeless. In just the first term.)
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Seems like what is needed here is a “Trojan Drone”.


38 posted on 12/15/2011 11:16:47 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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original source article for Haaretz article:

Exclusive: Iran hijacked US drone, says Iranian engineer

"In an exclusive interview, an engineer working to unlock the secrets of the captured RQ-170 Sentinel says they exploited a known vulnerability and tricked the US drone into landing in Iran."

44 posted on 12/15/2011 11:26:46 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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IMHO...

They undoubtedly did what they said.

But they are not smart, the design is seriously deficient for combat.

(hint, hint, need 2 modes, combat and non-combat; before it gets shipped to combat, you take out the peactime module and stick in a combat module, which is identical except for distress logic).

Why can’t the big defense contractors think of this stuff ?????????????

And I notice the price of these things is still sky-high.

Ridiculous.


48 posted on 12/15/2011 11:31:06 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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I am surprised there is no "dead reckoning" back up software should primary navigation fail or appear to be incorrect. That would have been simple to implement.
51 posted on 12/15/2011 11:35:52 AM PST by jpsb
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You people BELIEVE this? Geez. “We genius Iranians made this happen.” Yeah, right.


55 posted on 12/15/2011 11:44:27 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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BTW, if anything should be in “breaking news”, this should be it, rather than, “Time Person of the Year: The Protester”.


56 posted on 12/15/2011 11:47:01 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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