Posted on 12/12/2011 11:33:17 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Yes that’s right. That was the standard set by Newt supporters for the other candidates. Let him live up to the bar you all set.
VP is getting pressure to endorse someone but they're in a box. Do they endorse Newt, who may be a possible winner or do they go with their "principles" and endorse a likely loser?
LLS
I agree with your opinion. Let the first one with no sin cast the first stone.
Obama has had only one wife...has it made him a better President?
Romney can't beat Obama and no one else is close. GO NEWT!
Your article doesn’t debunk the 98 article, it confirms it.
She WAS in the hospital.
She WAS RECOVERING from surgery.
And the girls were very young. I doubt they had a knock down drag out fight in the hospital about MARIANNE.(wife #2)
Yep, ‘bout the kind of sanctimonious responses I expected from the crowd. Ok, raise your hand if you have not sinned and fallen “short of the glory of God”!
Anyone?
**crickets**
Well said.
I’d better shut up as well.
Newt supported Global Warming cap and trade with Pelosi (even though he denies it), supported ultra-liberal Dede Scozzafava over a conservative in the NY23 district, and advocated allowing lawbreakers (illegal immigrants) to remain in this country. Now taking an no-adultery pledge...smacks of more political opportunism. I’m not on Newt’s bandwagon...surely I would vote for him over Obama, but I would also choose to have gonorrhea over voting for Obama.
Your unicorn has a very shiny coat.
But you were replying to Marty60 at post #22, which cited the salon.com article in connection with the incident at the hospital. But, yes, he has doubtless changed and would most likely not now discuss divorce conditions with a current or future hospitalized wife in the presence of the children. After all, he has “mellowed”.
You say: "Vows to God about sin are impossible to keep." Do you include the marriage vows as well? "I vow to be faithful to my wife" -- impossible to keep? That's what I was referring to when I spoke of his vows to his Creator. If they're impossible to keep, should we dispense with the marriage vows?
I'm not trying to be combative here, because I certainly understand and embrace the reality of what the Bible teaches about redemption.
True, Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin, throw the first stone” but THEN he said, “Go, and sin no more”. People forget to quote the second sentence.
See my post no. 102.
Of course, I would vote for Newt over Obama as well, but I agree with you that we should not give Newt a free pass for all of the wrong-headed positions he has taken in the past and continues to take in the present (most recently, for example, stating that he would lean towards granting clemency to the convicted spy Jonathan Pollard).
I was led to Christ by the Pastor at the Church where I stumbled into after a great big wake up call for me in 1984 after leaving active duty. His name is Rev Steve Brown and he now has a radio ministry called Key Life after that church, Key Biscayne Presbyterian Church in Miami. FL. Steve Brown taught me a great number of things and one of them is quite close to the question you posed. I guess the most cogent answer (because I asked the same after my own sister did exactly the same thing in joining the Catholic Church after being raised Protestant) is that nobody but God knows the human heart. If a person believes in the redemption of sin based on Christ's sacrifice and resurrection and the life everlasting then they're a Christian and the little human inconsistencies we all raise about each other are but devices designed to break apart Crisendom. I was raised Baptist and so I believe in THE RAPTURE whereas the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA is more fundamentalist as opposed to the way liberal Presbyterian Church USA) that I joined as a result of my accepting Christ as Savior, does not recognize that concept. But my Pastors all kinda tease me and say to be sure to grab them by the hand on the way up. But it's all done with a strong sense of love and brotherhood. So you can nitpick if you like. But as long as the Biblical rule is followed as stated in the Bible about not adding to the Bible as written I have no real issue with main stream Christianity. However, that particular mandate still leaves out the Mormons. That's just the way it is. God said it, I believe it and (for me) that settles it.
The Daughter also said HER MOTHER ASKED for the divorce.
“My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.”
The fact that he has to do this..............
:-)
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