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To: Notwithstanding

Whoa. Back the truck up here.

I’m a Christian. And I don’t see Christmas as a Holy Day.

I think I know what this article is getting at. But if someone wants to get out the Bible and show me where it says to celebrate December 25 as a holy day, then....


9 posted on 12/12/2011 10:46:39 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’m a Christian. And I don’t see Christmas as a Holy Day.

For me, the big one is Easter.
11 posted on 12/12/2011 10:54:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Please don’t fart on this thread.


12 posted on 12/12/2011 10:57:36 AM PST by Notwithstanding (1998 ACU ratings: Newt=100%, Paul=88%, Santorum=84% [the last year all were in Congress])
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To: Responsibility2nd

>>But if someone wants to get out the Bible and show me where it says to celebrate December 25 as a holy day, then....

Christmas is the day we celebrate the birth of our Savior. It doesn’t matter what day of the year that happens. The only important thing is that it does happen and that Christians everywhere celebrate the EVENT, not the DAY, together.


23 posted on 12/12/2011 12:11:06 PM PST by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Since the earliest days of the Christian Church, March 25 was commemorated as the date that Jesus Christ was conceived (the Feast of the Annunciation). March 25 was the date of the original Good Friday, and thus of Christ’s (terrestrial) death, and tradition held that the great Jewish prophets died on the date of either their birth or their conception, which helps explain why the early Church picked that date. Add 9 months to March 25 and you get December 25, which is why the date has been celebrated as Christ’s birthday since the early Church (as noted by St. John Chrysostom, a patriarch of Constantinople who died in 407 A.D.)

But there’s also a Biblical basis for the March 25 date of Christ’s conception. As St. John Chrysostom explained, Luke 1 says Zechariah was performing priestly duty in the Temple when an angel told his wife Elizabeth she would bear John the Baptist. During the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, Mary learned about her conception of Jesus and visited Elizabeth “with haste.” The 24 classes of Jewish priests served one week in the Temple, and Zechariah was in the eighth class. Rabbinical tradition fixed the class on duty when the Temple was destroyed in A.D. 70 and, calculating backward from that, Zechariah’s class would have been serving Oct. 2-9 in 5 B.C. So Mary’s conception visit six months later might have occurred the following March and Jesus’ birth nine months afterward. http://www.ancient-future.net/christmasdate.html

While pagans such as Emperor Aurelian later tried to co-opt the incresing popularity of Christmas by moving the pagan “feast of the unconquered Sun” (Sol Invictus) from December 21 to December 25, Christians had already been celebrating Christmas on December 25 for years prior.

Christmas is not as holy a day as Easter, but it is certainly a holy day, and it should be celebrated on December 25.


28 posted on 12/12/2011 12:59:39 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It doesn’t say to celebrate Dec. 25 as a Holy day but it does say to give honor and glory to almighty God and celebrating the birth of His son, our saviour, does just that. So, it’s the universally accepted day as we don’t KNOW the exact day and I don’t see anything wrong with picking a date and keeping it each year.


43 posted on 12/12/2011 8:37:17 PM PST by kelly4c
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Yup. The Bible tells us Christ was NOT born in December. Either way, Christ should be celebrated on a daily basis. Christmas is actually the Winter Solstice and the rebirth of the SUN which was celebrated by the Pagan Romans.


46 posted on 12/12/2011 8:56:44 PM PST by Just4Him (The truth shall set you free. John 8:32)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m a Christian. And I see Christmas as a holy day as the early Christians chose to remember the birth of our savior on that date and have been doing so for centuries ever since. But if someone wants to get out the Bible and show me where it says the Bible is the SOLE source of authority for Christian doctrine, then....


48 posted on 12/12/2011 10:03:10 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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