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Live Thread: Iowa GOP Presidential Debate 9 P.M. EST/ 6 P.M. PST 12/10/11 on ABC Television
Saturday, December 10, 2011 | Kristinn

Posted on 12/10/2011 3:43:05 PM PST by kristinn

Where: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa.

When: 9 p.m. EST, 6 p.m. PST, Saturday, December 10, 2011. Debate scheduled to last two hours.

Broadcast on: ABC Televsion.

Moderators: Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulos.

Candidates: Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: debate; elections; gop; iowa; iowagopdebate
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To: rodguy911

I have the same impression. Perry has a halting speaking style, certainly can’t debate with Gingrich. But he does have authenticity and showed it well, tonight. I think I could enjoy watching him against Biden in a VP debate. A serious, accomplished governor against a clown VP who runs to Jon Corzine for advice.


1,081 posted on 12/10/2011 8:24:30 PM PST by untwist
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To: kabar

Just curious,does obama have any excuse at all for giving our drone to Iran/China? Shouldn’t he have destroyed it at the very least?


1,082 posted on 12/10/2011 8:24:45 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: MestaMachine
Not when they recall that she was the one who turned 999 into 666, and now she has the audacity to promote herself with it.

That's despicable. Thanks for the reminder.

1,083 posted on 12/10/2011 8:25:48 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: presently no screen name
What part of Newt telling the truth upsets you?

The amnesty part.

1,084 posted on 12/10/2011 8:25:48 PM PST by jwalsh07 (h)
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To: WeatherGuy

“Simple: MONEY.”
What he said...


1,085 posted on 12/10/2011 8:26:45 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Sacajaweau

I was thinking Penn. but don’t know if we could carry it or not.That would be a true victory.


1,086 posted on 12/10/2011 8:26:45 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: newzjunkey
He mentions 25 years when he tries to sell his amnesty. When you read his actual written plan, there is no time limit. It is pretty obvious when you are trying to sell an amnesty, you use the most extreme case favorable to your position. Newt is no different than Obama and McCain, i.e., learn English, pay a fine, and get your status legalized. Newt attempts to confuse and fool people that because the illegals don't get a path to citizenship that this is not an amnesty. Pure sophistry.

And Ronmney has now changed his policy from "attrition thru enforcement" to some silly registration scheme. Newt and Romney are disasters on immigration.

1,087 posted on 12/10/2011 8:26:45 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Your comments are well thought out, but Newt’s comment was inappropriate only IF he was interested in being an objective intermediater between the Israelis and the Palistinians. But it looks like Newt thinks there’s no chance for “peace” talks until the Palistinians stop launching missiles, and teaching their kids that murdering Jews is heroic. And there’s additionally no chance if the Palistinians continue to think that Israel is their historic homeland.


1,088 posted on 12/10/2011 8:26:53 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: JosephMama

Having a strong conservative candidate that has faith IS part of that goal along with kicking the fake president out of OUR white house. I hope we can have both those goals. :)


1,089 posted on 12/10/2011 8:27:24 PM PST by luvie (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: JosephMama

He didn’t kill anything but a coyote ;)


1,090 posted on 12/10/2011 8:27:24 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane (Make America Great Again--Perry 2012)
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To: Theodore R.

1.Perry
2.Gingrich
3.Paul
etc


1,091 posted on 12/10/2011 8:27:53 PM PST by make no mistake
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To: rodguy911

Just curious,does obama have any excuse at all for giving our drone to Iran/China? Shouldn’t he have destroyed it at the very least?

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The Obama-media hasn’t asked him and probably won’t. I thought it was simply brilliant of Perry to bring it up!

The look on the faces of those ABC liberal brats was priceless!


1,092 posted on 12/10/2011 8:28:45 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (*OMG ...means Obama Must Go in 2012!)
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To: untwist

I think its very apparent that most all of the candidates have improved vastly from their first debates. This was probably a really good idea to have so many debates.It improved the entire lot of candidates,IMHO.


1,093 posted on 12/10/2011 8:28:47 PM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: All

Media’s attempt to hamstring Newt seems to be failing horribly. I think he put Romney in his grave tonight.

Bachmann is just... no. She needs to give up on that discredited autism stuff.

Perry. I think he’s too wounded to make it and he’s very inarticulate. I almost wonder if he had a head injury at some point? I can’t see him having mass appeal.

I’m no fan of Newt but he’s making the most of his opportunity.

Wish Santorum could get more time. He’s the best we’ve got if you care at all about values.

Ron Paul might be our most electable guy, believe it or not. His anti war position can pull liberal votes. He can steal the Obama youth vote too.


1,094 posted on 12/10/2011 8:28:58 PM PST by StrongandPround
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To: make no mistake

Perry
Santorum


1,095 posted on 12/10/2011 8:29:11 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: DOGHEAD

“what do you think about the family values of your old boss Bill Clinton”

You expressed what was on my mind as the fantasy answer but my version was more inflammatory that mentioned rape and sexual harassment.

This was set up against Newt but it was the best thing that could happen to him. Newt gave the perfect answer.


1,096 posted on 12/10/2011 8:29:26 PM PST by TakeChargeBob
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To: rodguy911
"Just curious,does obama have any excuse at all for giving our drone to Iran/China?"

That should be a post for discussion on its own.

It is quickly being mentioned in the news but is a monumental subject.

1,097 posted on 12/10/2011 8:29:26 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: kabar
Newt's immigration policy would cause lasting damage. Romney's is only slightly better.

Winner of the debate: Santorum
Newt and Perry did not do well.

1,098 posted on 12/10/2011 8:29:44 PM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: kabar
Once you describe one party to the negotiations as illegitimate, you have lost all credibility with the Palestinians. I don't think the Israelis would find that helpful.

Sometimes one party is in fact illegitimate and "negotiating" in bad faith. At what point does one call it for what it is? If one party in the dispute declares the desire for the destruction of the other, is there really room for politesse?

1,099 posted on 12/10/2011 8:29:52 PM PST by KJC1
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To: rodguy911

F the MSM..........


1,100 posted on 12/10/2011 8:30:07 PM PST by advertising guy (dammit)
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