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‘Russia Is Waking Up,’ Former Prime Minister Says Amid Massive Protests
abcnews.go.com ^ | December 10, 2011 | Olivia Katrandjian

Posted on 12/10/2011 12:58:44 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Tens of thousands of people took to the streets in Moscow today, in the largest of more than 70 protests across Russia, to voice their anger at alleged election fraud and to demand that the results of the parliamentary elections be cancelled, a new election be held, and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin resign.

Opposition leader Boris Nemtsov, one of the organizers of the rally, explained the protesters’ demands to ABC News.

“Our demand is to cancel these criminal elections, because Putin stole about 13 million votes. Secondly, to fire Mr. [Vladimir] Churov, who is responsible for the election and to organize a criminal investigation against him. The third point is to register the opposition. For example, I represent the People’s Freedom Party. [Churov] rejected us from registration. Next point, in the next election, freedom for political prisoners. I feel that we have reached a point where people are very angry against corrupt and criminal power,” said Nemtsov.

Posters read, “Crooks and thieves have stolen our votes,” “Putin go away,” “Free and honest elections,” and “We are not mute.”

Police estimated that 20,000 people protested at Bolotnaya Square in downtown Moscow, on an island across from the Kremlin. But organizers claim that more than 100,000 gathered, calling it Russia’s biggest demonstration since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

About 50,000 police and 2,000 paramilitary troops were deployed in Moscow in preparation for the protests. Most rallies across Russia were approved by city authorities in an effort to avoid violence, which was seen as a sign that the Kremlin has started to sense the people’s change of mood. ....

The protests were mostly peaceful, with few clashes and arrests. As people left the square, they said, “Thank you” to the police.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; deposed; putin; revolution; russia; vladimirputin; vladtheembezzler; worldwide
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As people left the square, they said, “Thank you” to the police.

Proof that the anti-Putin protestors are not "Occupy Russia," they are the Russian Tea Party!

Down with Putin!

Russia without Putin!

1 posted on 12/10/2011 12:58:52 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

As Obama prepares to steal the 2012 Election, I hope he takes note of what is happening in Russia.


2 posted on 12/10/2011 1:03:49 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Looking at all the Soviet flags in the crowd, I doubt they’re the Russian Tea Party/


3 posted on 12/10/2011 1:05:49 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I expect Putin to do two things: distance himself from United Russia and offer enough concessions to calm the mood.

He doesn’t have to do anything irreversible. I don’t think the fault lies so much with him as the system he heads.

And changing it is going to be a tall order in a third term. He has to be thinking about his legacy.


4 posted on 12/10/2011 1:06:29 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RoosterRedux

Hussein says we should give comrade Putin whatever he wants because Russia is going to help us disarm Iran and win the war in Afghanistan! HAHA!


5 posted on 12/10/2011 1:08:09 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes, if Russia is waking up, I’m hoping the people here will do the same, it’s way overdue.


6 posted on 12/10/2011 1:08:30 PM PST by izzatzo ( Anybody but Obamney and Huntsman.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Are the Russians really ready to handle a real democracy? I do not believe they are conditioned to make it work. They have no practice at it.


7 posted on 12/10/2011 1:08:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: xkaydet65

The Russian Communists did very well in Russia’s big cities.

And many of the party’s voters are not Communists.

They are the principal opposition party. And people are not too impressed by the Kremlin’s talk of allowing a liberal party to be registered.


8 posted on 12/10/2011 1:09:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

As much as I’d like to see Putin gone, I think he is just too firmly entrenched in the state establishment. Putin will not be going anywhere anytime soon I’m afraid. As long as the military is with Putin an organic revolution will not develop.


9 posted on 12/10/2011 1:09:56 PM PST by TypicalWhiteAdolescent (The code of competence is the only system of morality that is on a gold standard.)
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To: dfwgator

Russians can turn against their rulers. They turned against Gorbachev, then Yeltsin and Putin has to wonder how effective he can be in the Kremlin if not just society but the elites begin turning against him.

He’s been lucky the past 12 years but people get tired of a too familiar face. Putin’s problem is he now represents the establishment.

And unless he quickly disassociates himself from it, he may not win in the first round in March.


10 posted on 12/10/2011 1:14:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Getting rid of rulers is the easy part, the hard part is finding a good one to replace them.


11 posted on 12/10/2011 1:16:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: TypicalWhiteAdolescent

Change in Russia is incremental. I don’t expect a revolution but I do expect change to happen.

Putin realizes there is no way to avert it, so he might as well take advantage of the inevitable.


12 posted on 12/10/2011 1:16:39 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dfwgator

There is no popular successor waiting in the wings. Putin has created a system is which he is indispensable.

Its a trap and also he is not just ready to retire.


13 posted on 12/10/2011 1:18:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The Bolsheviks, let the Mensheviks and the Social Democrats do their heavy lifting for them, then they simply swooped in and seized power.


14 posted on 12/10/2011 1:20:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: xkaydet65
Those are just the "ron paul" wing of the Russian tea Party! The communists only got 20% of the vote and they only got that much because they are the only opposition Putin allows except for Vladimir Zhirinovsky!

The real opposition are patriotic Russians who support the free market, such as "Solidarnost".

The communists are just the Russian "Coffee Party" trying to hijack the populist Russian Tea Party!

15 posted on 12/10/2011 1:23:56 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: dfwgator

Putin’s inner circle want to keep things the way they are. The public wants change. And now Putin has to choose between them.

I think he’ll try to please both sides but it may end up leaving no one satisfied.


16 posted on 12/10/2011 1:26:45 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I agree. There may be some change in their govt in the next 10 years or so, but that will be due mostly to changing economic conditions. In the past 10 years a middle class has grown in Russia thanks to market reforms and high oil prices. Now the Kremlin sees the result of a middle class; with more time to think about their country’s politics than just putting potatoes and vodka on the table, state abuses are not being tolerated as they used to be.


17 posted on 12/10/2011 1:27:20 PM PST by TypicalWhiteAdolescent (The code of competence is the only system of morality that is on a gold standard.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Just Russia is social democratic. Liberal and conservative parties were barred from running.

United Russia is the status quo “party of power” but Alexei Navalny dubbed it the “party of crooks and thieves” and it caught on.

Not every one is like that I’m sure but to be frank corruption is a serious problem in Russia and you have a bureaucracy instilled with the Soviet way of doing things.

Russian government is not ready for the Facebook and Twitter generation.


18 posted on 12/10/2011 1:31:52 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RoosterRedux
As Obama prepares to steal the 2012 Election, I hope he takes note of what is happening in Russia

He doesn't care about image as long as he can stay to the continuation of the destruction to capitalism. Tell me who's gonna challenge & win when he allows total voter fraud. The sheeple in America have no intestinal fortitude to fight.

19 posted on 12/10/2011 1:33:35 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: goldstategop

“Just Russia” is a pro-Kremlin Party which is also part of Putin’s controlled opposition. Their purpose is to steal votes from the communists and make sure United Russia stays in charge.


20 posted on 12/10/2011 1:35:18 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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