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Palestinians slam Gingrich as "ignorant"
CBS News ^ | 12/10/2011 | Staff

Posted on 12/10/2011 9:40:02 AM PST by Scanian

JERUSALEM - Palestinian officials are reacting with dismay to Republican presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich's statement that they are an "invented" people.

The Jewish Channel on Friday released excerpts of an interview in which the former House Speaker said Palestinians were not a people because - unlike Israelis - they never had a state.

"Remember, there was no Palestine as a state," Gingrich said. "It was part of the Ottoman Empire.

"I think we have invented the Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs and who are historically part of the Arab community, and they had a chance to go to many places, and for a variety of political reasons, we have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s. It's tragic."

Palestinian official Nabil Abu Rdeneh on Saturday described Gingrich's comments as "unfortunate" and called him "ignorant".

The Palestinian prime minister, Salam Fayyad, demanded Gingrich "review history."

"From the beginning, our people have been determined to stay on their land," Fayyad said in comments carried by the Palestinian news agency Wafa. "This, certainly, is denying historical truths."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arabs; invention; newt; newtgingrich; ottomans
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To: newfreep

That’s true. How much is posturing?


21 posted on 12/10/2011 10:01:22 AM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Toss 'em out!)
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To: Scanian

We are the furthest thing from ignorant. We are onto the Muzzie scam. How you are stupid and inbred enough to follow a false prophet who was sick sadistic mass murderer. You are the ignorant and stupid individuals.


22 posted on 12/10/2011 10:01:35 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Scanian
"The Palestinian prime minister, Salam Fayyad, demanded Gingrich "review history.""

Gingrich has a Ph.D. in Modern European History from Tulane University. I believe he has reviewed quite a bit of history.

23 posted on 12/10/2011 10:03:34 AM PST by magellan
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To: newfreep

[ “Sybil” Gingrich recently stated ~ 300 pages of Obamacare is OK. With Sybill, you never know which Gingrich will show up. ]

And all the other pages of a multi thousand page document ARE WRONG..
You sound like a democrat.. too lazy to read any of them(pages)..

300 pages could be good stuff, poisoned by 10,000 pages of other stuff..
I say this... knowing YOU will not read ANY OF IT..


24 posted on 12/10/2011 10:04:10 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: elcid1970
Think it might ever occur to the Death-to-America-Kill-the-Jews Beard & Burka crowd that every muzzie threat against Mr. Newt will translate like magic into thousands of infidel votes for the Republican candidate?

It must have. Where are the threats in the article?

25 posted on 12/10/2011 10:05:55 AM PST by x
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To: Scanian
"I think we have invented the Palestinian people, who are in fact Arabs and who are historically part of the Arab community

Spot on. And Arabs need to go back to Arabia, where they came from, and stop trying to take over the world. It's so ridiculous: They'd have you believe they've always been in Israel, always been in Constantinople, that they invented algebra, etc. All lies. The truth hurts, indeed. So refreshing to see someone of Newt's stature finally speaking it.

26 posted on 12/10/2011 10:06:48 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Scanian
During the war surrounding the Jewish state's creation in 1948, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled, or were forced to flee their homes.

Gingrich's reasoning was popular in the decades following Israel's creation, although that argument has since fallen out of favor among mainstream Israelis.

Wasn't it also the case that many Jews were expelled from Arab countries at the same time?

And whether the argument is popular in Israel is irrelevant. Is it a fact or not? Could the "Palestinians" or the pro-Palestinian journalist who wrote the article, please cite the evidence to refute Gingrich's argument? Nope.

27 posted on 12/10/2011 10:09:11 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Scanian

“Invented!”


28 posted on 12/10/2011 10:10:25 AM PST by cranked
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To: hosepipe

Sybil Gingrich has not been specific on what parts of Obamacare are good.

I want the whole damn thing repealed and TOTALLY eliminated.

With Sybil’s recent posturing for amnesty, he/she is just another big govt socialist.


29 posted on 12/10/2011 10:12:28 AM PST by newfreep (I am a "terrorist". I am Sarah Palin!)
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To: newfreep; xzins; wmfights; blue-duncan
Sybil” Gingrich recently stated ~ 300 pages of Obamacare is OK.

If you have ever seen a monster bill from Congress you see a lot of pages that say this:

THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK

30 posted on 12/10/2011 10:12:54 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Scanian
Palestinians celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers on 911
31 posted on 12/10/2011 10:14:10 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Perry Christmas & Happy Newt Year!)
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To: magellan
Gingrich has a Ph.D. in Modern European History from Tulane University. I believe he has reviewed quite a bit of history.

Lately most of it has been counterfactual.

Find a country or a people that isn't in some sense "invented." Look at a map of Britain or France or Germany or Italy or Spain a thousand years ago. Those countries were all formed over a long process and at the beginning it would have seemed ridiculous to believe that Burgundians and Gascons and Alsatians and Bretons would all come to be considered Frenchmen. Or consider Africa. Where did all those countries come from if not through some process that combined accident, will, and invention?

32 posted on 12/10/2011 10:16:17 AM PST by x
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To: newfreep

Wow, that’s funny. I read the article and headline and there was nothing in it about “ObamaCare”!

But the Newt-haters insist on spreading their spam on every thread.

It’s not going to help. After the umpteenth spam post, people just tune you out.


33 posted on 12/10/2011 10:29:17 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: x
I suspect this is why, despite considering Palestinians an invented people, he's still for a two state solution.

Americans ourselves are an invented people.

34 posted on 12/10/2011 10:29:38 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: Scanian
This reminds me of an old story (but still a great one) about how the Israelis and the Palestinians were at the negotiating table, the Palestinians were making their usual absurd demands, and the lead Israeli negotiator said "quite frankly, we cannot trust you" and the Palestinian delegation began yelling and clamoring "WHY NOT?!?" and the Israeli negotiator said "it started hundreds and hundreds of years ago when Moses was leading our people to the Promised Land, our people had been in the wilderness for years, and came upon a small oasis with sparkling water, and Moses went to bathe himself and to enjoy that unexpected blessing, and while he was naked and in the water, some Palestinians decided to sneak up behind him where his clothes were hanging upon a bush, and they STOLE his clothes, STOLE them! THAT is why we cannot trust you!"

Yassir Arafat himself jumped up and shouted "THAT is a LIE! There WERE no Palestinians back then!"

The Israeli neogiator smiled and said "thank you for making my point for me, now about these demands for land you are making ....?"
35 posted on 12/10/2011 10:30:22 AM PST by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: x

“It must have. Where are the threats in the article?”

They’re coming. This was the first step, delegitimze the intended target Alinsky style.

If Newt is the nominee, threats of a Muslim long hot summer will follow, just like the ones from the NAACP crowd if Obama was not victorious.


36 posted on 12/10/2011 10:34:48 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: newfreep
You do know the Sybil was a hoax......totally made up by the author of the book...
37 posted on 12/10/2011 10:37:43 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: hosepipe

I htink Newt is referring to the 300 pages of “The, And, A and Of”.

There are lots of them.


38 posted on 12/10/2011 11:25:18 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: mkjessup

If the Palis were smart, they’d have continued calling themselves “Amalekites” as some of them did some years ago.

Demonstrating a historical connection might have been tough but at least the name would give them some reason to claim a presence in The Promised Land during Moses’ time.


39 posted on 12/10/2011 11:37:50 AM PST by Scanian
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To: magellan
The Palestinian prime minister, Salam Fayyad, demanded Gingrich “review history.””

The problem is not reviewing history. The problem is the Muslims rewriting history to deny Israel has ever been a Jewish state, Jerusalem ever being its capital, Jordan not being the Arab state created out of the Palestinian Mandate, which promised it all to the Jews for a homeland, and inventing a new nationality called Palestinians.

They conveniently want the world to forget they have tried four times to destroy the Jews and drive the Jews into the sea (1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973). They want the world to forget the Muslims were attacking Jews long before Israel became a nation.;

They want the world to forget that between 1948 and 1967, they held Jordanian citizenship, and that there was no Palestinian state created by the Arab states in the land they occupied as a result of the armistice.;

They want you to forget that the Palestinians in Jordan tried to overthrow the Jordanian king (Saudi Transplant)and establish a country names Palestine, but had their heads handed to them by the Jordanians.;

They would like all to forget that the people conquered in the past by Muslim armies had to die, convert, or submit (the meaning of Islam).;

They also want the world to forget that over 600 thousand Jews were expelled from the Arab Middle Eastern countries following the establishment of Israel in 1948, and that these Jews rather than being house in neighboring states in refugees camps, and used by the West as a political club against Arab states, resettled in Israel and elsewhere.;

They would also like to destroy the knowledge that the Arabs who left Israel in 1948 were not fleeing Israeli guns, but getting out of the way so their Arab armies could destroy the Jews, and then they could move back in and take Jewish property.;

Also, Iran would like to forget that they once had a Jewish Queen, and a religion other than Islam.That Persia was also conquered and subjected to forced conversion for all Persians who were not "People of the Book" (everyone but Christians and Jews).;

There are about a billion Muslims and approximately 12 million Jews in the world. Who is the Goliath, and who is the group trying to destroy and occupy? Not the Jews!

40 posted on 12/10/2011 11:39:13 AM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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