Posted on 12/10/2011 5:45:05 AM PST by Perdogg
Charles Holt, 62, spreads a cache of vintage government records across his trailer floor. They are the stark facts of his state-ordered sterilization.
The reports begin when he was barely a teenager, fighting at school and masturbating openly. A social worker wrote that he and his parents were of “rather low mentality.” Mr. Holt was sent to a state home for people with mental and emotional problems. In 1968, when he was ready to get out and start life as an adult, the Eugenics Board of North Carolina ruled that he should first have a vasectomy.
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This has the telltale marks of Margaret Sanger thinking all over it. Nowhere in the article is the ethnic background of the subject mentioned, but given the times and the location, almost certainly he was of African descent.
Margaret Sanger was a great proponent of curbing or even eliminating the “taint” of African blood from America, and confining any who were still “tainted” to Africa. Which was probably one of the great motivations for creation of the country of Liberia on the west coast of Africa.
Liberal “progressive” ideas appear to resemble mental derangement more and more all the time.
There was a series of letters exchanged, between a contributor to that journal and the Nazi regime. I forget the names. But, there is a clear indication that the eugenics movement in the United States was regarded as a model by the Nazis, who implemented it themselves and then some, eventually to a monstrous scale of killing outright. That’s why eugenics is now a dirty word among those who still advocate it, and why the name “Planned Parenthood” came into being. Look into the name of that organization before.
I’m a North Carolinian born and bred, lived here most of my life and know the family names pretty well. Holt is and was a prominent name in the Alamance County region. Textiles. If there are any black people with that surname there aren’t a lot of them. They weren’t notable for slaveholding in the antebellum era.
In any old, large family, even a prominent, wealthy one, there will be branches that fell into poverty, some hanging on as genteel poor but some just ground into the dirt by circumstance with the attendant ignorance, destructive behavior and all the generational consequences of that. The Civil War and the depressions that followed certainly helped the process along. So, I’m not at all certain Mr. Holt is black.
The state eugenics board in NC did not focus solely on black people. There were homes for “wayward girls” run by or affiliated with the board and the state mental institutions had a hand as well. I would be surprised if it even showed a preponderance of sterilizations among black people on a percentage basis.
NC was one of the early “leaders” if you can stomach calling it that, trying to shed the Rip Van Winkle image of the state as a sleepy backwater that time had passed by. This they did with a vengeance. But, California put the efforts of NC to shame. Many other states were avidly into eugenics as well.
“... I thought freepers were pro-life anti-death panels.. maybe I was wrong”.
I think secretly that many so called freepers would support this type of activity today simply as a way of limiting undesirables. IMHO, what they are failing to see if the term “undesirable” is not set in stone... it can be expanded to include anyone the government doesn’t want. I am all for limiting welfare so that people don’t keep having children in order to obtain more government money. What I will never support is a panel or agency that sterilizes people. Planned Parenthood relies on some of the same sentiment that I read here this morning. A consent form was signed by the person or parent, and a child born to a poor person is destined to be a drain on society. Hence, some people are “better” than others and the ones who don’t fall into a approved category are better off not being alive.
I used to go to a great site called “Blackgenocide.org”
I see it has fallen down the memory hole...
hold on, hold on, hold, what the frig is NC doing with a Eugenics Board? Has anyone ever heard of this? Do other states have these?
WTF......is this Nazi Germany? America should NEVER have a Eugenics board!!!!!!
Then it becomes...your not pretty enough, you don’t have good grades, you are not open minded enough, you are predisposed to cancer...etc.....................................
Very dangerous
My sentiments as well...
In times past society practiced a form of "eugenics" in the fact those persons called "father" (I know archaic nowadays) would not allow their daughters or sons to marry potential "undesirables" and procreate a line of dysfunctional offspring or misfits ...I know I've tossed a few out the front door myself...
Also the lack of a massive welfare state in times past lent itself to some self control except for the really ignorant or stupid...
Giving ANY level of government ANY control over our ability to procreate is evil ...
It’s not convenient for the left to highlight their historic complicity with genocide. Eugenics must be painted as right wing, and so must Nazism. And so they are.
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You’re absolutely right.
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A more ethical solution is to require Norplant or an IUD immediately placed in any woman of child bearing age and teenaged female dependents when she seeks any food stamps, welfare or Section 8 housing. If you cannot support the children you have, you cannot be allowed to have more.
If you get off the welfare teat, the implant comes out. No abortions, no permanent sterilizations, no more “I can’t work because I just had another baby”.
Reverse able of course. If you later can afford to have it reversed, you will be fiscally able to support children. This doesn't stop procreation, it limits it to a sustainable rate. Uncontrolled growth is a characteristic of cancer. Over breed your resources and war, mass disease, starvation, and death are sure to follow
Is it better to prevent horrid misery on a massive scale, or just let em have at it?
Is that the same “Dad” folks want to be legally required to give permission for a minor female child to buy RU486?
(don’t bite down hard on every shiny thing that floats by. I’m just playing the devil’s advocate. )
I wanted to get sterilization from the moment I became aware. This was in NC. Being “unbred”, I would have been required to attend several expensive “counseling sessions” that I could not afford. I had to wait some 20 years for mentality to change. In 1989 my employer’s insurance company paid in full.
No child that I would have produced would have had a chance of becoming a productive member of society. I know that because I was blessed with a relatively high I.Q. Not every female has good motherhood opportunity, potential or inclination. Women who love being mothers don’t seem to understand or accept that fact.
It started before the Nazis. The Germans adopted it about the same time as most everyone other civilized country. It was very in vogue as a science right then. It still exists, but no longer as a unified science.
There are two sides to Eugenics. The first is the elimination from the human genetic pool of serious defects, which is a very attractive idea to the medical community, because they are the ones who have to deal with the human casualties and suffering caused by bad genes.
For example, the last recent effort at wiping out bad genes was not done through sterilization, but by homicide, in France. Hemophilia, the “bleeding disease”, is genetic, and expensive, requiring human blood clotting factor injections. So quite consciously, the head of the French medical authority exempted HIV screening from the preparation of human blood clotting factor injections.
This ended up killing the vast majority of the hemophiliacs in France with AIDS. France is now hemophilia free. The man responsible was sent to prison, but he considered his actions “worth it”, to rid France of that disease.
The problem with such efforts is that they are very prone to corruption. In the US, “sterilization courts” were instantly corrupted, both sterilizing poor people with no real political representation, with an emphasis on, but not limited to black people; while those who were textbook examples of people who needed to be sterilized by the rules, but whose families had wealth and influence, would be free to keep and use their fertility.
The most extreme examples of this form of Eugenics are found in socialist and national socialist genocidal schemes, one of the more recent by Paul R. Ehrlich, whose “The Population Bomb” was an earlier version of Man Made Global Warming. He wanted to sterilize most of the people in the world, hoping to do so by contaminating food and water. He “conscientiously” decided against this idea, because it could harm farm animals, which he liked.
The other side of Eugenics is much less well known. It is the selective breeding of people to produce better people, howsoever that is defined.
One of its most successful examples was not based on science so much as by the good guesses of the leader of an idealistic commune of northwest European immigrants in western New York State in the 1840’s. By distancing marriage and reproduction, he was able to breed several dozen American leaders in diverse fields before his commune disintegrated.
They were fortunate in that they had also quickly reached the saturation point for inbreeding, resulting in a bunch of bad recessive traits coming out, if they had continued.
More recently, the Chinese have attempted selective breeding among their elite classes, but this is not doing well, as their genetic pool is too small, and genetics is far from being understood well enough to intentionally breed for intelligence, strength or health, without guessing.
I’m deaf. Damn straight they didn’t focus on just blacks. They focussed on ‘undesireables’, of which I am one.
Why don’t we just pay for their abortions?
So let me ask you a personal question. If you didn’t want to be a mom, why did you need an operation to get yourself fixed?
Well, no, to fall into the chillingly blunt, utilitarian language of those times, you would have been termed a “defective.”
“Undesireable” pertained more to behavior.
That, btw, is what made me a Christian. I read Darwin’s essay on human sex selection, he spares no bones about how my defect should be purged from the gene pool. What matters little is the how, only that it was done.
Good to know who your enemies are, but gosh if that wasn’t a wakeup call.
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