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To: Bigtigermike
In response, Gingrich claimed that Sen. John Kerry, would have defeated Bush in the 2004 election had the new Medicare drug benefit not been pushed by the president and approved by a Republican Congress.

Be careful playing 'what if' Newt.

If John Kerry had won in 2004, it's extremely unlikely Obama would have run or won in 2008.
So is Newt saying we have him to thank for Obama?

2 posted on 12/08/2011 11:56:46 AM PST by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: whd23

Newt is full of it.

The prescription drug benefit did not gain Bush a single vote (see what happens when ya listen to Rove?), and until Obama took office, was the single biggest factor in the exploding deficit.


5 posted on 12/08/2011 12:00:38 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: whd23

OMG that is a stupid comment.

Here, let me see if I can top it.

Newt is related to Eve. Eve ate the apple and women were cursed with periods. Therefore, through association, all periods are Newt’s fault.

Obviously, Newt is responsible for cramps, headaches, suspension of sex, bloating and on and on.

I say we hang him!!


17 posted on 12/08/2011 12:12:33 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: whd23

[ If John Kerry had won in 2004, it’s extremely unlikely Obama would have run or won in 2008.
So is Newt saying we have him to thank for Obama? ]

I always have a nagging feeling that if Gore had Won in 2000 that after he bungled the response to 9/11 we would have been able to get in a true rock ribbed conservative...


18 posted on 12/08/2011 12:12:48 PM PST by GraceG
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To: whd23
So is Newt saying we have him to thank for Obama?

No, we have Rush to thank for that - else we'd have Hillary in the WH now.

21 posted on 12/08/2011 12:16:14 PM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: whd23

There is a particular professorial arrogance about Newt. What if’s and such are academic exercises of the academic and political elite. They accomplish nothing because they can never be proven conclusively.

Newt is this way because of his academic background and because he’s never held a real job beyond being a young husband to his former teacher. Since then he’s been nothing but a political figure who has had his share of ups and downs - and the political fate and largesse that comes with.

Politicians always fall back on the bullshit they know best. When they are faced with a logical and probing questioner, they delve further into the bullshit. The questions I’d like to ask Newt are:

1. You likely will give the illegals in this country ‘legal’ status; how can you guarantee the courts won’t fully legalize them and allow them to vote. Will you further guarantee that NONE of these people will drink from the public trough?

2. You have been shown to pander to anti-gun factions; will you swear to GOD that you will not impede or alter ANY provisions, rules, regulations, etc. to change the intended meaning of the Second Amendment.

3. What is your plan to abolish all agencies in the Federal Government not specifically cited in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights? What is your plan to get around the liberal court interpretations of the Commerce Clause?

These are just three; there are dozens more. He wouldn’t answer one of them truthfully.


50 posted on 12/08/2011 1:09:18 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: whd23
Newt's right about the drug plan. Today everyone forgets that the dems were hitting this hard in an attempt to gather the senior vote. People also forget, or were ignorant of the fact, that Bush completely out-maneuvered Kennedy and his cabal by watering the bill down and running it thru the private sector instead of making it a government program.

It has been dishonestly tagged by the Left (and stupid conservatives) as a budget-budget government power grab, but its actually hugely successful and comes in under budget. The Dems control of the press will destroy this country.

55 posted on 12/08/2011 1:33:32 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: whd23

If that Medicare Drug Benefit hadn’t been passed my family would have had to file bankruptcy just to pay for grandpa’s prescriptions.


60 posted on 12/08/2011 3:02:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: whd23
I think Newt's point may be sound. The Bush/Kerry election would have gone the other way if senior citizens had tipped Florida the other way. Since Senator McCain has made Tolkien's Lord of the Rings a metaphor for the Tea Party, might I suggest the words of Gandalf to Frodo are apt here:

Yet it is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule.

65 posted on 12/08/2011 6:45:59 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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