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1 posted on 12/07/2011 7:00:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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This is such a huge story and needs to be shouted from the mountain tops. Thanks for posting.

There is simply no industry in our nation that has so obviously failed and yet remains so incredibly sacred in the minds of so many.


2 posted on 12/07/2011 7:05:14 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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8 months work,no weekends, uncountable number of holidays and tenure...overpaid for sure!


3 posted on 12/07/2011 7:06:44 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Personally, I find the administrations at schools to be a bigger obstacle than the teachers. The district I live in has 5 elementary schools, two middle schools and one high school. I don't know what the total enrollment is, but it services and area of around 35,000 people.

The superintendent gets paid a couple hundred thousand a year to basically run the district into the ground. Their idea for improving schools is to have a full time curriculum staff that is constantly changing the coursework. Every time you turn around they are replacing core academics with more multi-cultural, self esteem based "learning."

Until we get these districts to get back to the basics they will continue to fail their students. How does it help a kid's self esteem when he can't make change at McDonald's without having the register tell him what to do?

There is a reason they call them elementary schools.

6 posted on 12/07/2011 7:24:43 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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All bachelor's degrees aren't the same. No one's surprised when a physics or finance major earns more than the person who studied medieval poetry, even if both graduate from the same college

When I was in school I had a buddy who was not cutting it and he was told by his academic advisor that he had two choices. Flunk out and go home or switch majors and get and Education degree. The school of education was chock full of the academic rejects from the rest of the university.

7 posted on 12/07/2011 7:27:02 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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bump for great justice


14 posted on 12/07/2011 7:47:09 AM PST by pogo101
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Many states and school districts do not require teachers to demonstratre competency in the areas they teach.

One notible area where that is not true is vocational education. In our state a voc ed teacher needs at least three thousand hours in their field to be considered for certification. In my case I also had a BS in electronics engineering and 9 years in the USAF as well as 12 years in aerospace experience.

The highest compliment I could received was "You're not like my other teachers".

The DoD has an excellent program, Warriors to Teachers, that receives little support through the districts that I am familiar with.

16 posted on 12/07/2011 7:59:21 AM PST by pfflier
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If pay was ‘results-oriented’; teachers would be paid the rough equivalent of a teen-age babysitter.


18 posted on 12/07/2011 8:02:34 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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I think teaching is a talent that can’t be learned in college. That means teaching effectiveness can’t be improved greatly with degrees, particularly advanced degrees.

Everyone has encountered some PhDers who can’t communicate basic ideas.


20 posted on 12/07/2011 8:05:34 AM PST by AlmaKing
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Who is really overpaid considering impact on the future of the country, teachers or stockbrokers? If you want the best pay the most. If education is failing pay more for teachers.


33 posted on 12/07/2011 8:31:33 AM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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Children in the sixties KNEW how to make change...now they can’t. Solution? Give teachers a raise...then our children will know how to make change again. Hallelujah!


44 posted on 12/07/2011 8:48:22 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Eight Reasons Public School Teachers Are NOT Underpaid

#1: I'm married to one and she has to support my lifestyle.

48 posted on 12/07/2011 9:07:14 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Well, they’re smart enough to have school board and school levy elections during the Spring. Just because they’re not very smart doesn’t mean that they’re not greedy.


49 posted on 12/07/2011 9:08:13 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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BTTT


72 posted on 12/07/2011 11:45:31 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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