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Newt really is the anti-Romney
Right Speak ^ | Saturday, December 3, 2011 | Martha

Posted on 12/03/2011 6:47:57 PM PST by Grig

Comparing and contrasting Newt and Mitt is a real eye-opener. The two men have taken very different paths in their personal and professional lives, and have wildly different personalities. Newt is a dreamer, Mitt a doer. Newt is reckless, Mitt is careful. Newt is famously undisciplined, Mitt is the epitome of self-discipline. Romney is a leader, Newt simply is not–according to those who worked most closely with him. Both men are intelligent, yet have chosen different ways to use their intelligence.

In education, Romney pursued business and law, while Newt chose modern European History. Romney earned his education quickly and entered the private sector, while Newt preferred academia.

Romney went on to a successful career in business, becoming wealthy helping businesses and creating jobs, while Newt made a career in government, becoming wealthy by exploiting his position of power and selling influence. Romney's skills were in high demand in the private sector, while Newt was removed from leadership in the House due to the chaos he created.

In matters of faith, Romney is a life-long member of his church and has a record of many years of service to it. Newt went from Lutheran to Baptist, to Catholic, with some speculation of political motive in making the conversions. I am not aware of service Newt may have given to his church. In their personal lives, they could not be more different. Mitt married his high school sweetheart after 4 years of courtship, and remains happily married. Newt also married his high school sweetheart - his geometry teacher whom he began dating at age 16. He has admitted that there is some truth in the notion that he hates women. He has a turbulent marital history due to selfishness and uncontrolled sexual appetites. While Romney helped Ann through both MS and cancer, Newt divorced Jackie, who had cancer–saying she was ‘not pretty enough or young enough to be a president’s wife–and besides she has cancer’. Newt divorced Marrianne, who was also diagnosed with MS. At the time, he asked Marrianne if she would please tolerate the six year affair with Callista, and remain married to him. She refused. He married Callista in 2000.

In matters of character, the contrast is keen. Romney has no hint of scandal–personal or professional. Newt has rumors of sexual scandals–including the infamous oral sex in a car with his neighbor's wife, while his little daughter was near. Newt also has a history of ethics violations, shady book deals, sham fundraising practices, and inconsistencies about whether he was hired as an ‘historian’ or as a lobbyist.

In the presidential campaign, they have also chosen very different paths. Romney is serious, organized, hardworking and prepared, while Newt has been flying by the seat of his pants. He now finds himself in the running, but unprepared, due to a severe lack of preparation and organization. While Romney has been mostly humble about his long term frontrunner status, Newt proclaimed himself the nominee after less than two weeks at the top of the polls.

There are many other differences--too many to list here. But we easily know enough to determine who is more worthy of support. We should not divorce the way a man lives in his personal life, from his actions in public life. Character is revealed in both professional and personal decisions. Romney has a solid record of being true to his word, family, and stewardships. Newt does not. While both men have significant accomplishments, only one has the background, character, leadership and temperament we need. That person is Mitt Romney.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ibtz; inman; noromney; purge; romneyputsch; zot
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To: mamelukesabre; Elsie
Elsie gets that in some form or fashion from more than a few most LDS apologist...

Of course what he doesn't get is rebuttal to what is posted...

Which given the citations is understandable.

301 posted on 12/05/2011 9:01:49 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: svcw
This constant drum beat charge from mormons is one that I personally grow weary of.

 
 
" The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success
unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly -
- it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."


Galatians 6:9
And let us not be weary in well doing for in due season we shall reap if we faint not.

302 posted on 12/05/2011 9:04:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ejonesie22

this isn’t the religion forum you idiots. so stuff it. All it is, is annoying spam.


303 posted on 12/05/2011 9:04:23 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: T. P. Pole
That at least makes a little more sense, since tithing settlement takes place in December and I don't know about you, but I don't do up my 1040s until March or April (and too often mid-April).

 
Tithing Settlement; yearend  http://tech.lds.org/wiki/Tithing_settlement
 
And you thought dealing with the IRS was fun!  http://tech.lds.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-2367.html

304 posted on 12/05/2011 9:05:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Grig

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Its right about Noot, but wrong about Romney.
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305 posted on 12/05/2011 9:07:34 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: T. P. Pole
You say - Baptism for the dead is mentioned as a practice of those who were NOT Christians by Paul.

What I see is Paul listing several proofs of the Resurrection existing and being universal, and includes the practice of baptism for the dead as an example.

 

 

 

What the text records:

 

1 Corinthians 15:29-58 (NIV)

29 Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? 30 And as for us, why do we endanger ourselves every hour? 31 I face death every day—yes, just as surely as I boast about you in Christ Jesus our Lord. 32 If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus with no more than human hopes, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised,

“Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.”

33 Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.”  34 Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God—I say this to your shame.


306 posted on 12/05/2011 9:10:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Brilliant

Both Noot and Mutt can be counted on to govern left.

Both have proven records of doing so, and in addition, Newt even goes so far as to sabotage conservatives.


307 posted on 12/05/2011 9:11:10 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: maine-iac7

Newt also advocated drilling in the US back in ‘08....”Drill Here, Drill Now”.


308 posted on 12/05/2011 9:12:39 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: T. P. Pole

MORMONism says: Baptism for the dead is what we do BECAUSE the Bible has been corrupted.

Christianity says: Baptism for the dead is what folks OTHER than Christians do, because they claim the Bible has been corrupted; with no proof.


309 posted on 12/05/2011 9:12:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: T. P. Pole
I have a genuine question here. You say - Baptism for the dead is mentioned as a practice of those who were NOT Christians by Paul. What I see is Paul listing several proofs of the Resurrection existing and being universal, and includes the practice of baptism for the dead as an example. Why would Paul use that as an example if it was a false practice? Appreciate your thoughts on this.

Were you to pay closer attention to the context, Paul repeatedly uses words like "us", "we", etc in an INCLUSIVE manner. That is until vs 29 where an exclusive term "THEY" is used twice. It is clear that Paul is referencing someone OTHER than the Christians at Corinth. If the rite was a legitimate part of apostolic teaching, we might have expected the apostle to say “what shall you do . . .” or “what shall we do . . .”

Second, there is absolutely no TEACHING in the verse, it is only MENTIONED.

Paul, within a greater context was arguing against those who said there was no resurrection. These false teachers are inconsistent: they deny the resurrection, yet engage in a practice — baptism for the dead — which is based on the hope of resurrection.

Ironically, the Encyclopedia of Mormonism espouses much the same interpretation of the verse: “... Paul clearly refers to a distinct group within the Church, a group that he accuses of inconsistency between ritual and doctrine.” Again, this is a group OUTSIDE of orthodoxy of Christianity so much as not to be considered Christian - "they". Paul associates the practice with false teachers and teachings.

310 posted on 12/05/2011 9:13:44 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: cripplecreek
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" Newt has had heroic convenient changes of mind position."
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311 posted on 12/05/2011 9:14:41 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: T. P. Pole
Because, unlike others, Mormons are willing to acknowledge the good in others? We accept truth even if it comes from an imperfect source.

We Whores of Babylon salute you for your honesty.

312 posted on 12/05/2011 9:16:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MNJohnnie

>> “Both Romney and Newt share the belief that government is the solution. That all we need is to ‘fix’ the system and make it work better.

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They are different faces of the same corrupt static Politics as Usual Establishment coin.” <<

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Exactly.


313 posted on 12/05/2011 9:17:50 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: T. P. Pole
We accept truth even if it comes from an imperfect source.

Well why not?

You've 'accepted' heresy from a PROVEN conman and liar.

314 posted on 12/05/2011 9:17:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: magritte
You only know like, one...

Are you SURE?

315 posted on 12/05/2011 9:21:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mamelukesabre
she’s a mormon hater. she can’t help it.

take your spam and stick it up your ass

But I'm a spam LOVER; I can’t help it!

316 posted on 12/05/2011 9:24:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: trisham

take your spam and stick it up your ass

288 posted on 12/05/2011 8:30:06 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Ripliancum
I don’t know any Mormons who post things as vicious, vindictive and reckless as you do, constantly.
 
 
 
 
 
I just LOVE the smell of IRONY in the moring!

317 posted on 12/05/2011 9:26:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ejonesie22

But he DO get jollies!!


318 posted on 12/05/2011 9:29:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mamelukesabre; trisham

WOW Mr. M you are totally fixated on people’s rectums, you have asked, no demanded that posters on FR put everything in a violent fashion there in about ten posts now.
What a strange little person you are.


319 posted on 12/05/2011 9:43:54 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Elsie

I’ll just go with this one instead:

“And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.”

Genesis 1:12

Call me a purist.....

:)


320 posted on 12/05/2011 10:30:22 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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