Posted on 12/02/2011 6:30:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Here’s the news people on Twitter are buzzing about from tonight’s raincheck interview with the Manchester Union-Leader. We already knew this, though — sort of. Cain told Wolf Blitzer on Monday, before we had heard Ginger White’s name, that his wife didn’t know White. (Skip to 7:30 of this clip.) That’s ever so slightly different from saying his wife didn’t know about White or that he was sending her cash, but c’mon: If she did know that, don’t you think he would have mentioned it to Blitzer as proof that their friendship was no secret?
Cain said that in about 70 text messages she sent him between Oct. 22 and Nov. 18, White was “asking for financial assistance. She was out of work and had trouble paying her bills and I had known her as a friend.
“She wasn’t the only friend who I had helped in these tough economic times, and so her messages to me were relating to ‘need money for rent’ or whatever the case may be. I don’t remember all the specifics.”…
“My wife now knows,” Cain said. “My wife and I have talked about it and I have explained it to her. My wife understands that I’m a soft-hearted giving person.”…
He said White did not threaten to go public with the allegation of an affair if Cain did not give her money, “nor was there any indication that there might be blackmail or anything like that…
Cain said he does not know why White has gone public with the allegation, “but I have very strong speculation that someone offered her a lot of money.
Supposedly she was desperate for cash, desperate enough that she’d risk ruining the marriage of a friend who’d been sweet enough to give her money by lying in exchange for a payout from some shadowy enemy — yet not so desperate that she’d try to blackmail Cain himself? If that’s true, she has a strange moral code.
Here’s the vid of the Union-Leader interview. Skip ahead to 22:00 and 46:00 for a few questions about White. Cain’s lawyer is pushing back by demanding copies of her phone records to try to prove that she was the one sending most of the texts, but even if that’s true, his polls are what they are. I can understand him wanting to stay in the race on principle if he’s innocent, but his support is now a wasting asset; if he wants to exchange it for something valuable, the sooner he does it, the better. Romney’s desperate to keep Cain’s supporters from bolting for Gingrich so he’d probably offer Cain something in return for an endorsement (Cain endorsed him in 2008, remember), but … what could he offer? A cabinet appointment or ambassadorship requires Senate approval, which would mean new scrutiny from Democrats of the harassment charges, White’s allegations, etc. Plus, endorsing Romney this time would complicate Cain’s brand as an authentic grassroots conservative anti-establishmentarian and he needs that brand to protect his chances at a show on Fox or a new talk-radio gig. Then again, endorsing Gingrich wouldn’t do much for his brand either. If he doesn’t endorse Mitt, then who? (Speaking of Newt, check out our very clever frontrunner turning a question about Cain into a play for social cons.)
One thing Romney has that Cain increasingly needs is campaign cash. According to WaPo, the Cain Train is almost out of steam financially, to the point where they can’t afford to run ads rebutting all the charges against him. If he ends up in debt, Romney could promise to erase his liabilities in return for an endorsement and some appearances on the stump. Obviously, though, that’ll matter much more to Romney when Cain’s still at 10-15 percent than when he’s at five. Tick tock. Click the image to watch.
RE: he’s a decent, naive guy who is easy for some people to take advantage of.
The more important question is this -— if he is a decent, NAIVE (emphasis) guy, is that a traight we want for a President?
It’s a dangerous world out there. We can’t have naive people occupying the highest office int heland.
Reads like a news release from the two bit hustler newt.
All the left has to do is make a suggestion. That is what they do best, true or not.
I am more worried that we are being railroaded again by having to except candidates chosen for us. We are way too busy concentrating on people that have been chosen for us instead of candidates we really want. Again, where are the conservatives?
Okay...I admit ignorance.
Has it been proven there was a sexual relationship? If so, I missed it.
No. Although I'll take him over 0 (or Mittens) & I don't want him driven from politics, which is what I'm afraid of.
"You might see me tonight with an illegal smile, it don't cost very much but it last a long while. . . ."
Song by John Prine.
Just between us Freepers, I steal my glue. Thanks to Barock I am Baroke. Good airplane glue is the best.
I really think she made the right decision to withdraw now. Who knows what they threatened her with?
P.S.
A relationship (does that mean friendship or sexual?) and the gifts from his wife?
It is obvious the wife is a very understanding woman to have also given her gifts.
I really feel duped by Cain. They asked him specifically if there were “any more” and he said not to his knowledge. He lied to all of us that stood behind him when the first two went public. Those first two women I believe were lying. This one I tend to believe. There is no way anyone would help support a woman for 13 years and not tell their wife. Where there is smoke there is fire in this case.
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So a guy demonstrates to you, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he’s keeping a relationship with another woman secret from his wife, for over a decade, in which money is provided to said woman.
In addition, he’s asked point blank about any other revelations that might surface, and he plainly says no, not a one. Knowing full well that Ginger was out there.
So, he’s concealed a relationship (with money changing hands) with another woman from his wife, AND, when asked about it denys.
Cain’s behavior in this matter (for me) tends to increase the credibility of the other women’s stories. Lying about any one of them calls his honesty about all of them into question.
Sorry, but that’s how trust works. Lie to me once, and all your previous statements now require more scrutiny and doubt.
I’d be interested in hearing how the female freeper contingent feels about their husbands giving another woman money over the course of at least a decade, and concealing it from you.
I know it would not go over well in my household (married 20+ years).
Where exactly is the blame for the people, the Left, who are actually doing this?
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Did the left somehow take the money out of Cain’s account and send it to Ginger? And then threaten Mr. Cain that if he told his wife, they’d .... what?
At what point do you hold people accountable for their actions?
Iron Munro answered your question best:
A man who can spend millions (of other people’s money) seeking the nomination without considering what a revalation like this can do isn’t smart enough to be president.
The EPA-environmental-lobby would absolutely eat this guy's strategic lunch.
AGW? The "hide the decline" emails completely undid the AGW movement. Imagine them finding some damning "hide the pollution" emails from people like Block that Cain would surround himself with?
We cannot afford to have a circus clown leading the last fight for the Republic. Instead, we have two carnival barkers and a drunk-sounding cowboy.
“I know it would not go over well in my household (married 20+ years).”
The word could be 20 years or a thousand years.
The key word is “trust,” which too many married folks don’t have of one another. And it is probably for good reasons.
But Cain's value proposition was straight shooting truth-teller. And, whlie Newt lied to his wife, Cain has lied to us. By first saying it was all untrue, but now as the thread is unwound we see it wasn't just the unnamed sexual harrassment accusers, now it's a woman who says she was having an affair, who he admits he's given money to, who he admits his wife didn't know he was giving money to ... but he still says they weren't having sex.
Does anyone really believe that? I don't. So Cain reminds me of Clinton, wiggling and wiggling to split words to deny what he did until finally we got the Blue Dress.
You mean by being forced to vote for a RINO instead of a FULL-BLOOD COMMIE?
In other words, if you're piloting a plane when both engines flame out, do you try to glide for as long as you can until you can restart them or find a place to land, or not getting the performance you desire from the plane, do you say "I told the mechanics they were doing it wrong!" and leave the cockpit to smugly grab a final gin and tonic?
Thanks for the tip.
Say... my old eyes don’t focus so clearly any more.
At the top of the can, doesn’t it say “Head Right”? You know, as in “Get your head right”...? :-)
It’s “Read-Right”, as in, You won’t be after inhaling this.
It might not be possible to have a Reagan right after a Obamunist.
What we need is a solid, conservative CEO of a good company or a red state.
All good capitalists have to be foxholed right now. They don't dare make themselves targets in this environment with 4 more years on the horizon if they fail, and with a 2 out of 5 still APPROVING of Obama for crying out loud....it's not a very safe bet to throw your hat in the ring anyhow.
Maybe we've got a choice of a RINO transition period where the economy can get going again, or all-out communist demise.
P.S.
Do you think Donald Trump bothers his wife by telling her every time he makes a donation whether it is to an individual or to some large charity?
Mr. Cain has enough cash to do the same. It is called “trust.”
But Cain's value proposition was straight shooting truth-teller. And, whlie Newt lied to his wife, Cain has lied to us. By first saying it was all untrue, but now as the thread is unwound we see it wasn't just the unnamed sexual harrassment accusers, now it's a woman who says she was having an affair, who he admits he's given money to, who he admits his wife didn't know he was giving money to ... but he still says they weren't having sex.
Does anyone really believe that? I don't. So Cain reminds me of Clinton, wiggling and wiggling to split words to deny what he did until finally we got the Blue Dress.
I believed Juanita, and I believe Ginger.
Please remove yourself from the race Mr. Cain. It's over.
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