Posted on 11/30/2011 12:44:58 PM PST by TBBT
I am mightily impressed with your beyond informative and direct response. Some freepers would just say “look it up yourself, noob”.
Well said and .... Amen!
Thank you for the explanation. I think I'd agree that Gingrich will probably be similar to Nixon if he is elected.
The only outsider running is currently (fair or not) in free fall in the polls.
That sure does explain a lot, doesn’t it?
To you Nootiepatooties this is all about stiffling the flow of information about Noot.
Noot is not and never has been any kind of conservative.
Noot is a typical academic liberal psuedo-intellectual snob. He thinks people are too stupid to appreciate all the wonderful things he has planned for us (kind of like a more polite Obama).
Those of us that have lived through the Nooting of the USA have no desire to play the Nootiepatootie game again.
>> “The only outsider running is currently (fair or not) in free fall in the polls.” <<
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Voting by Push polls is what got us into this mess.
JohnKinAK was good enough to post this list of Nootisms on another thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2814730/posts?page=2#2
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Know them by their Fruit
Some of Newt’s Progressive Dossier:
04/02/1987 – He cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine
10/22/1991 – He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
03/–/1993 – He Voted for sending $1.6 Billion in foreign aid to Russia.
11/19/1993 – He voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act.
11/27/1994 – He supported the GATT Treaty subjecting US Sovereignty to the WTO
08/27/1995 – He suggests that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
04/25/1996 – Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion)
04/10/1995 – He supported Federal tax dollars being spent on abortions.
06/01/1996 – He helped a Democrat switch parties in an attempt to defeat Ron Paul in the 1996 election.
09/25/1996 – Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
01/22/1997 – Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
11/29/2006 – He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. Wants to stop terrorists from using the internet. Called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
11/29/2006 – He called for a “Geneva Convention for terrorists” so it would be clear who the Constitution need not apply to.
02/15/2007 – He supported Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
09/28/2008 – Says if he were in office, he would have reluctantly voted for the $700B TARP bailout.
10/01/2008 – Says in an article that TARP was a “workout, not a bailout.”
12/08/2008 – He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
03/31/2009 – Says we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
07/30/2010 – Says that Iraq was just step one in defeating the “Axis of Evil”.
08/03/2010 – Advocates attacks on Iran & North Korea.
08/16/2010 – Opposes property rights of the mosque owner in NYC.
11/15/2010 – He defended Romneycare
12/05/2010 – He said that a website owner should be considered an enemy combatant, hunted down and executed, for publishing leaked government memos.
01/30/2011 – He lobbied for ethanol subsidies.
01/30/2011 – He suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
02/13/2011 – He criticized Obama for sending less U.S. taxdollars to Egypt.
02/15/2011 – His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating “a new endowment for conservation and the environment.”
03/09/2011 – He blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for the country.
03/15/2011 – Says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
03/19/2011 – He has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability)
03/23/2011 – He completely flip-flopped on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
03/25/2011 – He plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first day as president.
04/25/2011 – He’s a paid lobbyist for Federal ethanol subsidies.
05/12/2011 – He was more supportive of individual health-care mandates than Mitt Romney.
08/01/2011 – He hired a company to create fake Twitter to appear as if he had a following.
10/07/2011 – He said he’d ignore the Supreme Court if need be.
11/16/2011 – Was revealed he actually received 1.6 million from Freddie Mac, vs. his previously stated $300,000-
2009-2010 Travels around the country with Al Sharpton and Arne Duncan to promote President Obama’s new educational policies: i.e. increased local control of schools with increased Federal subsidies and regulations from Washington.
2010 Supported ultra-liberal, pro-abortion, pro-union, establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava in New York’s 23rd Congressional District in a special election, over conservative candidate Doug Hoffman.
1995 Gingrich Wrote the foreword to Alvin Toffler’s book, “The Politics of the Third Wave, Creating a New Civilization” and advocated all members of Congress should read the book. The book calls for a “New Democracy” for the 21st century which is essentially based on following Plato’s Third Wave virtues:
1. Private property must be abolished, the wealthy hated and their wealth redistributed by state mandate.
2. Children belong to, and are born to serve the state. The influence of parents is noxious and disruptive to the interest of the state, thus every child should be raised in government nurseries, without knowledge of who his or her parents are and without the parents having knowledge of who their offspring are. Every child becomes the common property of every parent in the city. Every parent has the collective duty to watch over them.
3. Private education, like traditional parenting, is at the very headwaters of falsehood and social strife. It must be eliminated and replaced with a closely monitored state school system.
4. Old values passed down in history, song, children’s books, all need to be rewritten to discredit and erase the old virtues and to exalt and enthrone the new.
5. Frivolous children’s games eliminated, new games developed that emphasize law and order.
6. Private industry is self serving. State should have absolute control of all industry for benefit of the whole.
7. Class mobility is a revolutionary idea that threatens the stability of the state and the pre-eminence of true philosophy. A strict caste system and the elimination of career choice is the answer.
8. Talent must never be allowed to wander or be wasted. Early on, children must be identified and channeled by the state for the benefit of the state into careers selected by the state.
9. Under the guise of equality, women ought to be exploited: first to foment ‘class war’ during the Third Wave (women’s roles are reversed to men’s); next, to be promptly put into their place as part of a ‘community of women’ to be shared collectively by male guardians.
10. Selective breeding is beneficial to the state.
11. Unwanted babies, inferior babies, deformed babies, and the adult handicapped are an unnecessary drag on the prosperity and well-being of society. They should be left to die. Unproductive adults, likewise, should be terminated.
12. Homosexuality is morally acceptable and homosexual rape of lower-class males and boys is a right of rulers, guardians and war heroes.
13. Only a few men are foreordained to understand life and higher good… the rest are equivalent of dumb sheep.
14. Absolute loyalty to the government is vital for the success and safety of society. A state sanctioned National Police network is an essential good.
15. Wealth is not essential to the safety of the state.
- Gingrich voted to permit the Federal Reserve to purchase Treasury Debt
- Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
- Gingrich voted to strengthen the federal home loan agencies
- Gingrich voted for increased powers to the FDIC to bail out struggling savings and loans through reorganization, purchase of bad assets, or recapitalization.
- Gingrich voted in favor of the Chrysler Bailout in 1979
- Gingrich voted for an oil windfall profits tax in 1979, which was signed by Jimmy Carter.
- Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more power.
- Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
- Gingrich voted against a provision requiring congressional approval prior to deployment of U.S. troops into Central America in 1983.
- Gingrich voted to increase CIA secrecy and against any requirement that the President report covert activity to congress before it is initiated.
- Gingrich voted for Jimmy Carter’s “Energy Mobilization Board.”
- Gingrich voted for an increase in taxes on coal producers in 1981
- Gingrich voted for a 5-cent increase in the gas tax to fund highway and other mass-transit projects.
- Gingrich was one of the few who voted against the 1984 bill requiring the President and Congress to submit a balanced budget
- Gingrich voted for a congressional pay raise
- Gingrich voted against a bipartisan 1% cut to the Department of Defense budget for 1983
I think we are on the same wave length. I have not decided on which candidate to support either.
I know that, in the absence of very unexpected developments, I won't be voting for Huntsman, Johnson, Roemer, Romney or Paul. I could vote for (in no particular order other than alphabetical) Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich or Santorum. I could have voted for Sarah Palin if she were running.
This year's very disagreeable process (a new low) has allowed a leftist turkey shoot (starring our party's candidates as the targets, that must not to be repeated. The only "debate" that I found worthwhile was the one in South Carolina run by Senator Jim DeMint. No Ted Baxters. No Katie Courics. No Wolf Blitzers. No Carl Camerons or Chris Wallaces for that matter. Etc. Jim DeMint is a trusted senator and made a useful appearance as did a distinguished Princeton Professor Robert George who asked nuanced and meaningful questions evidencing great thoughtfulness. I forget the rest of the details of who asked the questions but it was a great contribution to the race. Each candidate got absolutely equal time unlike the other "debates." No candidate was able to hear the responses of any of the others since they appeared on stage one at a time while those not on stage were in isolation rooms. Instead of "gotcha" questions from insufferably biased smartass leftist wannabe news celebrities, we got thoughtful questions and comprehensive answers. We could deprive CBSABCNBCCNN, et al. of advertising revenue while we are at it.
In future contests for POTUS nominations, the GOP should set a number of "debates" reflecting DeMint's standards. One contest per week, each focused on one or more areas of issues: social issues (abortion, marriage, euthanasia and such), military, foreign policy, tax reform and reduction, regulatory reform and reduction, crime and our constitutional right to keep and bear arms, education reform and alternatives, economic recovery and growth, energy policy, trade policy, how to restructure "entitlements," monetary policy, tax reform, reducing and eliminating deficits and the national debt, defending genuine personal freedoms from the statists, and an open ended issue area for expressing imagination as to what the USA and the world might be 25 or 50 or 100 years from now and how best to get there.
Broadcast on TV, radio and internet simultaneously with the ability to replay on internet at leisure. Ignore the petty personal scandal obsessions. No candidate gets questions in advance. For qualifying questioners, place a priority on intellect, creativity, serious Socratic method and sober presentation (using Professor George as an ideal) and insist upon the questioners being within a diverse range of Republican thought. You never know but that such a program might draw serious interest among serious citizens, contribute greatly to public discussion of issues with an inclination toward GOP values and even dramatically re-establish the Republican brand. The Demonrats would have real problems playing copy cat lest the public get a good snootful of what Demonrats REALLY think.
We can make hilarious fun of the Demonrats as the anti-intellectual, politically craven, anti-moral cowards that they truly are when they unsuccessfully try to get us to go back to having Wolf Blitzer, Brian Williams, Diane Sawyer "vet" our candidates through their dime-store Bolshevik prism with tabloid questions and same old, same old gotcha politics.
God bless you and yours.
I think we are on the same wave length. I have not decided on which candidate to support either.
I know that, in the absence of very unexpected developments, I won't be voting for Huntsman, Johnson, Roemer, Romney or Paul. I could vote for (in no particular order other than alphabetical) Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich or Santorum. I could have voted for Sarah Palin if she were running.
This year's very disagreeable process (a new low) has allowed a leftist turkey shoot (starring our party's candidates as the targets, that must not to be repeated. The only "debate" that I found worthwhile was the one in South Carolina run by Senator Jim DeMint. No Ted Baxters. No Katie Courics. No Wolf Blitzers. No Carl Camerons or Chris Wallaces for that matter. Etc. Jim DeMint is a trusted senator and made a useful appearance as did a distinguished Princeton Professor Robert George who asked nuanced and meaningful questions evidencing great thoughtfulness. I forget the rest of the details of who asked the questions but it was a great contribution to the race. Each candidate got absolutely equal time unlike the other "debates." No candidate was able to hear the responses of any of the others since they appeared on stage one at a time while those not on stage were in isolation rooms. Instead of "gotcha" questions from insufferably biased smartass leftist wannabe news celebrities, we got thoughtful questions and comprehensive answers. We could deprive CBSABCNBCCNN, et al. of advertising revenue while we are at it.
In future contests for POTUS nominations, the GOP should set a number of "debates" reflecting DeMint's standards. One contest per week, each focused on one or more areas of issues: social issues (abortion, marriage, euthanasia and such), military, foreign policy, tax reform and reduction, regulatory reform and reduction, crime and our constitutional right to keep and bear arms, education reform and alternatives, economic recovery and growth, energy policy, trade policy, how to restructure "entitlements," monetary policy, tax reform, reducing and eliminating deficits and the national debt, defending genuine personal freedoms from the statists, and an open ended issue area for expressing imagination as to what the USA and the world might be 25 or 50 or 100 years from now and how best to get there.
Broadcast on TV, radio and internet simultaneously with the ability to replay on internet at leisure. Ignore the petty personal scandal obsessions. No candidate gets questions in advance. For qualifying questioners, place a priority on intellect, creativity, serious Socratic method and sober presentation (using Professor George as an ideal) and insist upon the questioners being within a diverse range of Republican thought. You never know but that such a program might draw serious interest among serious citizens, contribute greatly to public discussion of issues with an inclination toward GOP values and even dramatically re-establish the Republican brand. The Demonrats would have real problems playing copy cat lest the public get a good snootful of what Demonrats REALLY think.
We can make hilarious fun of the Demonrats as the anti-intellectual, politically craven, anti-moral cowards that they truly are when they unsuccessfully try to get us to go back to having Wolf Blitzer, Brian Williams, Diane Sawyer "vet" our candidates through their dime-store Bolshevik prism with tabloid questions and same old, same old gotcha politics.
God bless you and yours.
Blessed Alois Cardinal Stepinac, pray for them!
Good article.
If it comes down to Newt v Romney, Romney gets my vote. At least he is an outsider with business success, and has good moral character.
If it is between Obama and anyone else I am voting for anyone else. I am not going to let Obama come back no matter who opposes him. Any conservative who stays home is an idiot.
If it were up to me Bachman is my first choice with Cain a close second. I have given both money.
Newt would be polarizing for sure, and maybe do some shady things if past behavior is an indicator. That said, I do agree with Newt that ANY of the candidates would be a vast improvement over Obama.
PS-I love your screen name :)
First, thank you for bringing some information to the table. Now we have something to discuss and explore.
Secondly, your post #146 was just nasty...why do you feel a need to attack and call people names. Why are you disrespectful in this way? what has happened that makes you so angry about this issue. It sounds like your head is going to explode. But thanks for posting the information it is helpful.
“I know that, in the absence of very unexpected developments, I won’t be voting for Huntsman, Johnson, Roemer, Romney or Paul. I could vote for (in no particular order other than alphabetical) Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich or Santorum. I could have voted for Sarah Palin if she were running.”
Roger that, Patriot!
I think the majority of the Conservative Movement is in the same boat.
There's still 4 debates this month. One in AZ and 3 in Iowa. That's the end of them until after the caucuses.
My #146 was a factual statement about Noot, born out of watching him for over 30 years making fools out of the voters.
I’ll also vote for any of them over Obama.
I like my screen name, too! Thanks!
What about throwing Rubio in there as a VP. Ny and Fl got be taken that way?
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