Cain's backers warily consider Gingrich

Los Angeles Times ^ | Paul West and Robin Abcarian,

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Republicans who don't want to vote for Mitt Romney had rallied behind the Atlanta businessman, but his campaign has been rocked by accusations of an affair. And the former House speaker has a marital track record of his own.

...Gingrich has vaulted into the top tier on the basis of his performance in televised debates, which have largely driven Republican voter preferences this year...

But an indication of discomfort in some quarters over Gingrich's rise came Tuesday when a new attack on the former House speaker surfaced online from a group calling itself Iowans for Christian Leaders in Government.

...."Newt is famous for being all over the board," Cary Gordon, an influential pastor from Sioux City, Iowa, told the Des Moines Register. "He is admirable in many ways, but I won't back him. I don't trust him."

Cain, for his part, told senior staff members in a Tuesday conference call that he was assessing whether the affair allegations "create too much of a cloud" for his campaign to continue.

.....Grubbs seemed bothered by a statement released Monday by Cain's attorney, Lin Wood, who said a candidate's "private sexual life" is not the business of the public or the media.

The tone of Wood's remarks also dismayed Richard Land, an evangelical leader who is president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

"What I read into it was, he wasn't denying the allegation, but it didn't involve sexual harassment so it didn't rise to the level of being discussable," Land said. "Mr. Cain is running as the family values candidate, and when you're the family values candidate, you better understand you are asking to be judged by a different standard."

[Cincinatus' Wife]

The anonymous attack on the group's website said that Gingrich was "not an acceptable choice among Christians." It also stated that Gingrich had been "unfaithful to two of his previous spouses."

Iowans for Christian Leaders in Government Put Presser on Vander Plaats

......." YOU AND MR. GINGRICH SHARE A MUTUAL FRIEND IN JIM NUSSLE

In 2006, Mr. Nussle ran for Governor and asked that you serve as his running mate; an offer your willfully accepted.

In the nineties, Mr. Nussle’s current wife was working for Mr. Gingrich; while Mr. Gingrich’s current wife was working for a committee which Mr. Nussle served on in the House of Representatives.

Furthermore, both men were married when they began affairs with each other’s staff members – all while Mr. Gingrich was leading the investigation into Bill Clinton’s extramarital affair with Monica Lewinsky. This is an unfortunate irony.

More importantly, it points to a willful disregard of personal behavior and you are forever linked to both of these candidates in a way that is unacceptable for many of us who demand Christian leadership.

Which brings us to our next concern."..............

[Cincinatus' Wife]

[sushiman]

Nancy and Gingrich on video together re: climate change . Makes me wanna puke .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LolQC53pzV4

[Berlin_Freeper]

Tuesday, Nov. 29, 2011
Rick Perry
Campaigning with Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio
Hudson, N.H.

Mitt Romney
Attending a fundraiser at the Tampa Museum of Art
120 W Gasparilla Plaza, Tampa, Florida
8:30 AM
Mitt Romney
Speaking at Conchita Foods
9119 Northwest 105th Way, Medley, Fla.
9:00 AM
Jon Huntsman
Hosting a town hall meeting at Rivier College
420 South Main St., Nashua, N.H.
10:00 AM
Newt Gingrich
Touring Hilton Head Christian Academy Lower School
55 Gardner Drive, Hilton Head Island, S.C.
12:00 PM
Mitt Romney
Hosting a fundraiser
Naples, Fla.
12:00 PM
Rick Santorum
Speaking as part of the Georgia Republican Party 7th District Presidential Forum
1775 Pleasant Hill Road, Duluth, Ga.
12:00 PM
Buddy Roemer
Hosting a “Coffee with the Candidate” town hall meeting
530 Jersey Ave., Jersey City, N.J.
12:30 PM
Newt Gingrich
Visiting Newt 2012 Beaufort County Victory Office
1247 May River Road, Bluffton, S.C.
1:00 PM
Newt Gingrich
Holding a town hall meeting at The Promenade
1100 Promenade St., Bluffton, S.C.
4:00 PM
Mitt Romney
Speaking at the Port of Tampa
1101 Channelside Drive # 400, Tampa, Fla.
6:00 PM
Jon Huntsman
Speaking at a house party at the home of of Mark and Tracy Coen
Concord, N.H.
6:30 PM
Herman Cain
Giving a foreign policy speech at Hillsdale College
33 East College St., Hillsdale, Mich.
7:30 PM
Newt Gingrich
Hosting a town hall meeting at Newberry Opera House
1201 McKibben St., Newberry, S.C.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Power and soul struggle: Vander Plaats Says He's Still Searching for Clarity (Iowa FAMiLY leader endorsement angst) …………..”Sources familiar with the meetings at Walnut Creek Church have indicated that the goal of the meeting is to come to a conclusion as to which candidate social conservatives should rally behind. In the first meeting there was no consensus, but when they met for a second time, a new candidate rating system was unveiled. What TheIowaRepublican.com was told is that Bachmann received the highest ranking with 36 points, followed by Santorum with 35.5, Perry with 34, and Gingrich with 31.5.

It’s unknown who created the criteria and what it all entails, but the meeting has a large contingent of Bachmann supporters. The reason why this is important is because TheIowaRepublican.com was told that this group has been charged with making a recommendation to the FAMiLY Leader’s board before they decide on who they will endorse. When asked why his board of directors cannot make a decision on their own, Vander Plaats admitted that the board will seek the input of others, and added that, “Wisdom comes in a multitude of counsel.”

Since showering praise on Gingrich in an interview with the Des Moines Register following the forum, social conservatives leaders around the state have been grumbling about what they think is a likelihood that Vander Plaats may endorse Gingrich.

Yesterday, an anonymous letter from a group called Iowans for Christian Leaders in Government distributed an open letter that they had sent Vander Plaats warning him about the negative ramifications that endorsing Gingrich would bring. The letter stated that Vander Plaats’ endorsement “may be guided, not by prayer and conviction, but by personal benefit and prior relationships.”

Vander Plaats traveled the state in 2008 to advocate on behalf Gingrich’s American Solutions. Gingrich also provided financial support to Vander Plaats’ effort to defeat three Iowa Supreme Court justices last fall. Vander Plaats also received financial support from the American Family Association and worked with Wayne Hamilton, a key Perry aide. …………

While Vander Plaats and the FAMiLY Leader are still searching for clarity, there is one thing he was very clear about. The process is more difficult because their goal is not to just find a candidate who can beat President Obama next fall, but this candidate also needs to be able to beat Mitt Romney.

The only question for Vander Plaats and the FAMiLY Leader is, what kind of candidate will best accomplish that goal? A surefire conservative whose core convictions match theirs, or a candidate who already has momentum or has the connections that may pay dividends down the road?”

[DeaconRed]

Looks like it's down to Newtie or Mitchie.
Not the choice I was hoping for.
I hope I am wrong, but for the first time I now see the possibility of another 4 for ZERO.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

............"[Rick] Perry will address lawmakers today [Nov 30, 2011] in Concord, where they may vote to override Gov. John Lynch's veto of right-to work legislation."....Link

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Looks like it's down to Newtie or Mitchie. ..........

Well, that's what the MSM is certainly pushing. The media is ready for a change of pace and on to the races -- they have the 2 moderates, so they're good to go, the hell with the GOP base.

[Berlin_Freeper]

From yesterday - it looks like only Gingrich had time for Christians.

10:00 AM
Newt Gingrich
Touring Hilton Head Christian Academy Lower School
55 Gardner Drive, Hilton Head Island, S.C.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Are Conservatives Ready to Forgive Newt Gingrich His Sins? ………..”If Newt can withstand the rehashing of Tom Coburn’s book — a book that portrays Gingrich as talking the talk, but betraying the talk once in office — we may have our anti-Romney. If not, I think Rick Perry may yet have a second coming if he is ready. I say that having asked many callers to my radio show who are Cain supporters where they would go. Most say Newt. The others Perry. And if Newt implodes? They almost always say they’d go to Perry — Romney is rarely their choice.”…….

[Jemian]

Consider the source: LA Times. Feh!

[Cincinatus' Wife]

The LA Times article is basically quoting the religious leaders in Iowa.

[montag813]

Looks like it's down to Newtie or Mitchie. Not the choice I was hoping for.

Same here. I was for Cain, and can't go with Mittens or Newt. Time to buy some rolling papers and get behind Gary Johnson?

[gwilhelm56]

I’m with CAIN until and if he drops out ... otherwise.. buy stock in Rolling papers and join the Paultards!!!
/Barf

[Boardwalk]

As God as my witness I will never vote for another RINO again! Go Cain! Don’t let them the MSM and 0bama win!

[Publius Maximus]

This race is already a total let-down. I am about to give up on politics altogether. Always one establishment RINO or another to give up the election altogether, or to win it and then do what the enemies of liberty and republican government do anyway.

I am coming inexorably to the realization that the 2010 elections where simply the last gasp of the American spirit leaving the nation for good. Between OWS and the emergence of this absolutely pathetic field of candidates, which is being widdled down by an all-powerful mainstream media to two mutually unacceptable alternatives, the country is toast. Stick a fork in it, turn it over, and give it up.

Our children will live substantially less well-off than we ever thought imaginable. I guess this has been true for awhile, but now it's obvious and apparently irreversible. Sigh.

[American Constitutionalist]

Cain supporters are not going to dump Cain unless he drops out of the race.
He ain't going down without a fight..
Go Cain !

[Cincinatus' Wife]

......Our children will live substantially less well-off than we ever thought imaginable. I guess this has been true for awhile, but now it's obvious and apparently irreversible. Sigh.

Rick Perry wants to make Washington D.C. as inconsequential as possible in our lives. He wants to (as he has in Texas) create a climate where the economy can take off -- lower taxes, stop over regulating and reform oppressive litigation.

Texas, Austin exception to gloomy retail picture [along with other good links]

Texas Debt Clock

[snip] “Dynamic Tax Score for RickPerry.org, Inc. Proposal:

Based on the higher GDP estimates forecast by the dynamic scoring exercise, the Perry proposal will not only lead to an increase in overall economic activity and jobs, but will also lead to higher federal revenues in the long term. In fact, the analysis suggests that revenues could be as much as $406.8 billion higher than under the static model by 2020, and could be as high as 19.5 percent of GDP. The dynamic score of the proposal suggests that lower flatter taxes could generate both more revenue than the current tax code, and significantly more economic growth over time. With increasing demands on the Federal government from growing entitlements, higher pension expenses and interest on the debt, it will be necessary to increase the size of the economy – and the tax base – in order to generate significantly higher revenues. Table 7 shows how the Perry proposals would do this over a seven year period.’ [snip] Tax Proposal Score PDF

[teeman8r]

i am sticking with cain...

after this hogwash with the media, he’ll be hell on the libs for atleast four years and when the conservative message starts bringing this country back, four more.

all aboard the cain train and let the liberal whistles whine.

teeman

YES WE CAIN!