Cain Wants Illegal Immigration Issue Shifted to States

The Corner / The National Review ^ | 11-27-2011 | Katrina Trinko

[TitansAFC]

Herman Cain indicated today that he does not agree with Newt Gingrich’s position on immigration.

“The way I would deal with those that are already here, which has been my stated position: empower the states to deal with the illegals that are already here, not some, big, grandiose, national one size fit-all. I believe that the states should be empowered to deal with the illegals that are already here,” Cain said CNN’s State of the Union this morning.

In response to whether that meant the states could allow illegal immigrants to “be put on a path toward legalization and toward citizenship,” Cain answered, “It would be up to the states as long as they did not break the federal law.”

But when Crowley used the word “amnesty,” inquiring if that it meant it would be “okay” if the states granted “some sort of amnesty to those who are already living here,” Cain vehemently denied he supported amnesty.

“I’m not saying that at all,” he said

“Secure the border for real,” Cain continued, speaking about what his plan regarding illegal immigrants is. “Promote the path to citizenship that’s already there, and the path to citizenship that’s already there doesn’t say anything about amnesty. Thirdly, enforce the laws that are already there, but make it easier for companies to be able to enforce the laws. And fourth, empower the states. Don’t give the states any special things to do, just empower them to do within the law what the federal government is not doing.”

[hosepipe]

[ Somebody should clue Cain in that the US Constitution requires the federal government to protect the states from invasion. ]

Thats WRONG... The U.S. Constitution is to protect "the People",
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT...

[American Constitutionalist]

" he’s not talking about the states having any different set-up or power to make policy, but just the ability to carry out the federal policy that already exists "

So the states won't be sued by the La Raza gang.

[American Constitutionalist]

** " Sounds like he’s saying that the feds should obey the law and just in case they don’t the states should be able to make sure the federal law is obeyed. The states can hold the feds to the rule of law, in other words - so that if the feds won’t do it the states will, just so the law ends up being enforced. " ***


“ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ”

[American Constitutionalist]

" especially like Cain said giving the states the right to decide what if anything to do. "



10th Amendment:

“ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ”

[jonboy]

Sit out the 2012 = OBAMA = no ability to “sit out” the end of the United States. I doubt that will go very well for you!

[American Constitutionalist]

" If we could get the border secure ... and we could if we decided to and had the right president .. "

How many times Herman Cain has to say it ? or are some people tone deaf ?

He has said to secure the borders For Real, not just talk about it, do it....

[American Constitutionalist]

" He isn't qualified to be the President "

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications one must meet to be eligible to the office of president. A president must:


be a natural born citizen of the United States;
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

[American Constitutionalist]

" Somebody should clue Cain in that the US Constitution requires the federal government to protect the states from invasion.

Millions of people pouring into our states illegally is an invasion. "

Ah ? Cain has already made that clean, Secure the Borders for Real instead of just talking about it.

Cain's own words.

IN CONTEXT :

( *** CAIN: I would oppose amnesty in every form, because here are the four problems relative to immigration. It's not one, it's four. Let's secure the border for real. Not talk about. Let's enforce the laws already on the books. *** )

[American Constitutionalist]

" Could you please show me where Cain says to allow the states to give illegals amnesty? "

Cain's own words ...

IN CONTEXT :

( *** CAIN: I would oppose amnesty in every form, because here are the four problems relative to immigration. It's not one, it's four. Let's secure the border for real. Not talk about. Let's enforce the laws already on the books. *** )

[9YearLurker]

So all it would take is one state—and we’ve got a couple en route to majority Hispanic who would be so predisposed—to grant citizenship to as many of the 30+ million illegals as we have here already, let alone those who would have yet more incentive to join them.

Cain’s position on illegal immigration is as disgraceful as Gingrich’s.

[American Constitutionalist]

" He is a neophyte of the first order. He is just making this $#I+ up as he goes. He is clueless. "

How so ? show us, give us proof...

Go to his articles and read his views on WND...

[American Constitutionalist]

" If we could get the border secure .. "

What do you mean ?

Cain has already stated that he wants the borders made secure, and for real, no more talking about it, get it done.

[9YearLurker]

Cain is saying he’d let an individual state give citizenship to as many illegals as it wanted. And you agree with that?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

In response to whether that meant the states could allow illegal immigrants to “be put on a path toward legalization and toward citizenship,” Cain answered, “It would be up to the states as long as they did not break the federal law.”

G'bye, Pizza Man.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Cain’s officially soft on borders. I guess I will be looking at Bachmann and Santorum.

PING!

[American Constitutionalist]

" Cain is saying he’d let an individual state give citizenship to as many illegals as it wanted "

What Cain is saying, is ? enforce the laws that are already on the books.
If they want to come here they will have to go through the present way of Legally going through the process coming into the USA.

[mazda77]

OkRita, go ahead and play your little childish game of GOTCHA just to support your candidate. You have fallen into their clutches and show yourself to be no better than the creeps we are trying to oust from our government. You are the perfect example of the circular firing squad that we as conservatives are trying to break free of but noooooo, you cannot get away from that win at all costs attitude.

As I continue to comment on this forum, Let’s weight them all as though we will be taking all of them come a positive result on November 6th 2012. I would lay odds that almost all of them would be a part of the eventual administration in key areas of responsibility.

I really like Rick Perry when Rick is being Rick. Isn’t it ironic that the same people who bailed on Newt because he would not run a campaign like they wanted, are now running Perry’s? If Perry were to win, would we have another Rove “running” the administration and not the President? Remember, it was Newt’s longtime then advisers who stood by and let him do the couch scene with Nanzi who are now advising Perry. The alternative is Newt who seems to have a problem listening to anyone besides himself or someone who has made a very successful career of seeking advice and weighing them before coming to a decision based on all the input he receives. I do not want another Teleprompter President or to be constantly nuanced on any issue.

Just like my Jack Daniels, straight up and on the rocks cold.

[normy]

That's a cop out. It is the job of the Feds to protect our border. It's one of their only jobs to be precise.

Cain once again is dancing around issues.

Rick Perry has been not only the most solid on this but the most consistent on this.No wonder Sheriff Joe is backing Perry and not Cain.

Come on Cain, can you be precise on how you would secure the border because only Perry and Bachman have a real plan they have articulated.

Enforce laws already on the books but if the Feds don't (that's you by the way Mr. Cain do you understand you must lead?) let the states do it?

Herman Cain has only removed himself from the responsibility of the President.

[American Constitutionalist]

" Poor little newtie has no place to hide. Newt supports amnesty so now attack everything moving. LOL "

Now some are saying that it's the Feds job to deport, not the states job to deport... and a week ago they were saying we can't deport the illegals because it would be " Heartless " .... wow, Mexican double 2 step dance...

[normy]

Do you understand that Rick Perry already spends 400 million of Texans taxpayer dollars to secure the US/Mexico international border. Do you know if you work for the Highway Patrol you also have to work the border to assist the US border patrol. That is Texans tax dollars and officers taken off their normal patrols and sent hundreds of miles away to support the weak Federal response to this issue.

I have a relative who is a 15 year vet who worked the border not long ago and turned over 18 illegals to the border patrol by himself.

Herman Cain has no plan and Rick Perry not only has a plan but has shown how it's done. If he had the Federal resources he could shut it down in a year.