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California Bullet Train Project Advances Amid Cries of Boondoggle (Bullet Train To Nowhere Alert)
New York Times ^ | 11/27/2011 | Adam Nagourney

Posted on 11/27/2011 3:15:47 PM PST by goldstategop

he pro-train constituency has not been derailed by a state report this month that found the cost of the bullet train tripling to $98 billion for a project that would not be finished until 2033, by news that Republicans in Congress are close to eliminating federal high-speed rail financing this year, by opposition from California farmers and landowners upset about tracks tearing through their communities or by questions about how much the state or private businesses will be able to contribute.

The project has been mocked by editorial boards across the country — “Somebody please stop this train,” The Washington Post wrote — while Republicans here have denounced it as a waste. In an unfortunate turn of timing, state officials announced this month that revenues this year were so far behind projections that California was likely to have to impose $2 billion in cuts in January.

“This will go down in history as one of the great white elephants in California history,” said Bob Dutton, the Republican leader of the State Senate. “It’s a boondoggle. The state cannot afford it.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: adamnagourney; boondoggle; bullettrain; california; highspeedrail; jerrybrown; moonbeamexpress; newyorktimes; traintonowhere; wasteofmoney; whiteelephant; williegreen
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I know Willie Green would think this is the greatest thing since white sliced bread. California has just signed onto a boondoggle that will benefit very few people. This is the antithesis of a sound public transportation policy. What is driving the bullet train is not market demand but the ego of the state's politicians. The first spur is going to be built in the middle of nowhere, to induce the state to commit to an expensive project that at best will service a tiny fraction of California's people. Liberals talk of redistributing the wealth. But here the wealth is being redistributed from California's least affluent to subsidize a more affluent elite's wanting to play with a expensive new toy. There is no economic or practical logic for the bullet train. A broke state simply can't make it work. There is no reliable or stable funding source for a public works project of this sort. And California risks being locked into spending billions of dollars on a potentially obsolete technology - very likely if there are faster and cheaper transportation breakthroughs in the future. Governor Jerry Brown is trying to saddle future generations with something they might have no use for and he'll be dead and buried long before the bill comes due for this undertaking. This white elephant needs to be killed, not resuscitated - both for California's and the nation's sake.
1 posted on 11/27/2011 3:15:48 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

The folks who remain pro-train (THIS train, anyway) are those who corruptly stand to benefit, and/or those who “ain’t payin’ much in taxes ANYway, so why not.” What a waste of MY money.


2 posted on 11/27/2011 3:18:56 PM PST by pogo101
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The White Elephant Express now crossing the Taxpayer Memorial Bridge...


3 posted on 11/27/2011 3:22:27 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: pogo101

Not exactly. The kind of riders attracted to this train are likely to be well-heeled professionals. That underscores what’s wrong with the assumption behind it: massive ridership. The ridership has to be artificially inflated to make the huge costs of constructing and operating it appear superficially plausible. But if the ridership is way below projected levels, its going to operate at a loss and not pay for itself from Day One. Oops! The market wouldn’t build it because it knows the bullet train is not a financially viable proposition. Politicians can and do disregard market realities because if it goes south, those who sponsored the project will be long dead and buried and the taxpayers can be expected to pick the tab for it. That’s exactly why its the wrong thing for California, given its current fiscal straits.


4 posted on 11/27/2011 3:27:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Visualize Californians swirling the toilet bowl while their leaders reach out again and again for the flush handle.


5 posted on 11/27/2011 3:30:03 PM PST by umgud
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Visualize Californians swirling the toilet bowl while their leaders reach out again and again for the flush handle.


6 posted on 11/27/2011 3:30:10 PM PST by umgud
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Visualize Californians swirling the toilet bowl while their leaders reach out again and again for the flush handle.


7 posted on 11/27/2011 3:30:28 PM PST by umgud
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Visualize Californians swirling the toilet bowl while their leaders reach out again and again for the flush handle.


8 posted on 11/27/2011 3:30:38 PM PST by umgud
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Visualize Californians swirling the toilet bowl while their leaders reach out again and again for the flush handle.


9 posted on 11/27/2011 3:30:43 PM PST by umgud
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The first section of this monstrosity will run between Fresno to Bakersfield. Yeah, I can see those passengers just lining up for half a mile at the station, to get to those two towns. What a joke.


10 posted on 11/27/2011 3:32:57 PM PST by Signalman
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...sorta like China's empty cities...


11 posted on 11/27/2011 3:35:51 PM PST by WVKayaker (The GOP needs to live the planks of its platform, not just offer lip service. -Sarah Palin 8/2008)
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...sorta like China's empty cities...


12 posted on 11/27/2011 3:36:48 PM PST by WVKayaker (The GOP needs to live the planks of its platform, not just offer lip service. -Sarah Palin 8/2008)
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They can go faster by car. And you still need to arrange personal transportation at either end of your trip. At the top speed it would at best shave an hour off driving time but the problem remains that you still get someplace once you leave the train. Unless the proponents are going to tell us how they will solve that problem, it amounts to an expensive exercise in redundant gratification.


13 posted on 11/27/2011 3:37:55 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Sarah called it the “bullet train to bankruptcy”.


14 posted on 11/27/2011 3:54:22 PM PST by Montanabound
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15 posted on 11/27/2011 4:11:52 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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Is Dick Turban in line to get the cash to construct the aptly-named bullet train between New Fallujah and Rahmabad?


16 posted on 11/27/2011 4:35:45 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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Not to worry, Moonbeam is on the job and if not stoned or drunk again, I’m sure he will stop this nonsense. But wait, how would you tell is Moonbeam was not stoned or drunk? Oh well, never mind.


17 posted on 11/27/2011 5:07:07 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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I was including those well-heeled folks in the “corruptly stand to benefit” category, I should have explained. They know perfectly well it won’t work (at the price stated, by the time stated, with the safety promised, at the speed promised). But they take their six-figure salaries and keep quiet, knowing that, by the time the hoax is truly clear to more voters, they (the corrupt beneficiaries) will be retired and in Florida.


18 posted on 11/27/2011 5:15:12 PM PST by pogo101
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What is driving the bullet train is not market demand but the ego of the state's politicians.

Uh, no. It's a real estate racket with big developers involved. The politicians are merely rising to the smell of money.

19 posted on 11/27/2011 5:49:09 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: GeronL

Here in Pittsburgh, they are digging a tunnel under a river to the North Side,disregarding the fact there are like 3 bridges already going to the North Side already.
the cost is millions of dollars. That money could have gone to fix the bus system that is drowning in red ink due to the unions.
Common sense is lacking in almost every form of government.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 5:57:07 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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