Posted on 11/27/2011 7:24:27 AM PST by Kaslin
My plan, or at least the work portion of it actually has a chance to succeed if we do well in Nov 2012. As to the 12 million number, remember that in ‘86 Reagan expected there to be 300,000 amnesties, but the actual number was 3,000,000.
I worked through high school and college... Darn phone got hungry and ate words.
Even more laughable is the premise that the US government will actually track red cards.
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Good luck with that
When I first arrived in the US we used to have to register our address once a year...
Before I was an Anerican citizen and still a green card holder (Alien Registration Card) I would receive a document in the mail every January that I was to take to the nearest Post Office before the end of the month swearing that my physical address was the same...
If my address had changed in the last year I was suppose to have already told the INS my nerw one...
Failure to do so and failure to register every year was grounds for deportation...
The last time I did that would have been Jan 1975 because late in that month I became an American citizen...
Sometime since 1975 the requirement for registered aliens to do that every year was dropped...
That would make much more sense, but proponents of these “card” bots isn’t to fix any problem but how to get cheap labor; if that requires legalizing illegals in some manner, then so be it.
The problem now is that these ‘employers’ are so used to profits made primarily from illegal labor, that they refuse to give it up. They do not care that each illegal costs us infinitely more than the piss poor wages they pay out.
< SARCASM > I like the red card program, make them wear it 24/7. Every year hunters, using non-lethal dart stun guns, could hunt them with a bad limit to cull the herd. Like on Wild Kingdom, remember that show? < /SARCASM >
We can look back in history to see what worked:
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
Or we can look back in history to see what didn't - Simpson-Mazzoli.
Here is the money line from the article about Eisenhower:
Profits from illegal labor led to the kind of corruption that apparently worried Eisenhower... Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing's close connections to the president shielded him – and the Border Patrol – from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.
Eisenhower fought off the corrupt interests. Simpson-Mazzoli was subverted by them. Newt is kowtowing to them.
And that is all the difference in the world.
You won't get anything remotely resembling Eisenhower's integrity by voting in Newt. Newt has made that absolutely clear.
That’s exactly right. The political/media elites will be all for a “red card” plan, touting it as some supposedly grand compromise, but the moment it’s passed, they will quickly rail against it and deem it APARTHEID, and with the help of the courts, immediate citizenship for all. It’s an arrogant, subterfuge way to slip amnesty through in the face of a rather unwilling public.
The only good thing here is that Gingrich gave me the final bit of evidence that I don’t want him anywhere near the presidency. It was already becoming not only distressing, but downright nauseating, having to consider all the crap in his history, both public and private, that I’d have to overlook in order to ever vote for him. Now, thanks to this, he can just go over into the same corner with Romney, as a no-way-in-hell option for me.
Regardless of having broken our immigration law (and you could make a case that we officially encourage them to do so), if that is the only law that's been broken and the person has become and since been an otherwise upstanding, law abiding, tax paying citizen and member of the community, there is no way our government is going to round that person up and ship them off to Mexico or wherever they came from.
Not only is that inhumane (flame away), there is not enough money available to pay for that sort of policy and certainly not the political will or support. It ain't gonna happen and if it did, would do more harm than good.
We did this to ourselves and now we need to be both smart and humane in fixing the damage. Like it or him or not, Gingrich has put together something that will do that and it starts with controlling the border. Make it so.
It was done during the Eisenhower Adminstration. And for every person deported, ten self-deported.
It was not done after Simpson-Mazzoli and Newt doesn't want to do it now?
Why?
Eisenhower looked to solve a problem.
Newt and his backers look to profit from it.
That, in a nutshell, is what this is all about. Integrity. Something Newt has absolutely no understanding of from all of his years in the corrupt Beltway culture.
“... employers are so used to profits made primarily from illegal labor...”
That is a problem. May I add another one? Over the decades that illegals were allowed to simply walk over and stay here without any sort of prosecution whatsoever... something happened planned or unplanned. That is, many Americans know of someone illegal or have family members that are illegal. Last night, I witnessed one FReeper refer to another FReeper as a member of the KKK based only on his stand to deport all illegals. I really hate to say this.. but if push comes to shove (and we actually get some backbone concerning deportation), not only the warm/fuzzy libtards will reject it but the (so called) conservatives. I hope to heck I am wrong but I don’t think so. When I read that FReepers state (in recent posts) thinks like, “Well, my cousins are illegal” or “Julio has been a friend of our family for years”.... I think we are doomed. IMHO.
“Presence itself is the problem.”
EXACTLY. It’s the demographics that will destroy us as the United States, as we know it. We either take control of those demographics, or we become Third World. Clearly Newt is in the Third World camp, even if he doesn’t understand it.
“... employers are so used to profits made primarily from illegal labor...”
That is a problem. May I add another one? Over the decades that illegals were allowed to simply walk over and stay here without any sort of prosecution whatsoever... something happened planned or unplanned. That is, many Americans know of someone illegal or have family members that are illegal. Last night, I witnessed one FReeper refer to another FReeper as a member of the KKK based only on his stand to deport all illegals. I really hate to say this.. but if push comes to shove (and we actually get some backbone concerning deportation), not only the warm/fuzzy libtards will reject it but the (so called) conservatives. I hope to heck I am wrong but I don’t think so. When I read that FReepers state (in recent posts) thinks like, “Well, my cousins are illegal” or “Julio has been a friend of our family for years”.... I think we are doomed. IMHO.
“... employers are so used to profits made primarily from illegal labor...”
That is a problem. May I add another one? Over the decades that illegals were allowed to simply walk over and stay here without any sort of prosecution whatsoever... something happened planned or unplanned. That is, many Americans know of someone illegal or have family members that are illegal. Last night, I witnessed one FReeper refer to another FReeper as a member of the KKK based only on his stand to deport all illegals. I really hate to say this.. but if push comes to shove (and we actually get some backbone concerning deportation), not only the warm/fuzzy libtards will reject it but the (so called) conservatives. I hope to heck I am wrong but I don’t think so. When I read that FReepers state (in recent posts) thinks like, “Well, my cousins are illegal” or “Julio has been a friend of our family for years”.... I think we are doomed. IMHO.
I didn’t mean to post a zillion times. I keep having issues with the computer stating something about the server etc... sorry about that!
Illegals have a network here. A conspiring network of employers, sympathizers, Democrat Politicians, and a government system of largesse distribution that has no rival on this earth. Illegals are largely uneducated, of questionable background (throw in a lot of criminality and the odd perversion, too), and wont to taking advantage of EVERY government giveaway available: filing false taxes, voting, AFDC, EITC, WICs, SCHIP, Section 8, and any other program that does not make them conclusively prove their citizenship.
Add to that their load on our emergency healthcare system, which they use as a GP, the schools which force our citizen children to accomodate a language they should not have to, and you have a country headed for an Hispanic disaster and doomed to a third world status.
They will not bring our country up to a higher standard. They will devolve it to the status of the countries from whence they came
Based on epic volumes to the contrary, it’s amazing that anyone would think the Federal Government could competently oversee or operate a scheme like this.
Agreement with both sets of comments.
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