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An End to Illegal Immigration
Townhall.com ^ | November 27, 2011 | Mark Baisley

Posted on 11/27/2011 7:24:27 AM PST by Kaslin

At the Republican presidential debate last week (you remember; the one moderated by that bearded guy named “Blitz”), Newt Gingrich stirred up some controversy in his discussion on immigration.


From my perspective as someone who spent a weekend as an illegal alien in 1980, this segment of the debate was of particular interest.  I don’t have the editorial space to go into it here, but if you buy the Shiraz (preferably pre-2007 and corked rather than screw cap), I will recount my perilous adventure into the African nation of Swaziland without the permission of the Kingdom.

Speaker Gingrich’s passing comment on the Red Card program caught my attention, “I think you’ve got to deal with this as a comprehensive approach that starts with control of the border as the Governor (Rick Perry) said.  I believe, ultimately, that ... once you’ve put every piece in place, which includes a guest worker program, you need something like a World War II selective service ward that frankly reviews the people who are here.  If you’ve come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period.  If you’ve been here 25 years and you have three kids and two grandkids, you’ve been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don’t think we’re going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully and kick you out.  The Krieble Foundation has a very good Red Card program that says you get to be legal, but you don’t get a pass to citizenship.  And so there is a way to ultimately end up with a country where there’s no more illegality and you haven’t automatically given amnesty to anyone.”


The Krieble Foundation is named for Professor Vernon K. Krieble "to further democratic capitalism and to preserve and promote a society of free, educated, healthy and creative individuals."  Professor Krieble’s daughter, Helen Krieble, is the President of the foundation.  I have had the pleasure of speaking with Ms. Krieble on several occasions and know her to be a thoughtful and benevolent defender of America’s founding principles.

At a speech to the Heritage Foundation in 2005, Helen Krieble related her personal story of dealing with the onerous bureaucracy of hiring temporary immigrants, “It is so hard to come in legally, it is almost unimaginable.  And certainly I have a lot of experience with it because I do use guest workers in my business.  And it is a nightmare.”  After standing in line at the consulate, outdoors in the sun for eight hours, Ms. Krieble was returned to the end of the line for having folded the application paperwork incorrectly.

Helen Krieble hires about ten guest workers each year to accomplish the messier tasks of her equestrian sports business.  And, she does so within the rules.  Of course, many American employers and millions of immigrants do not have the patience for the politically charged Ministry of Malarkey that substitutes for an immigration policy.

We all know the realities; stolen Social Security Numbers, unfair competition, cash payments that avoid taxation, abuse of social services and an imposition on our culture.  So as a compliant employer and president of a conservative think tank, Ms. Krieble brings a credible perspective that has garnered the appreciation of the “smartest presidential candidate.”

The Red Card Program first considers that guest workers are wholly different from immigrants, that they would have no preference for citizenship and their children born in the United States would not be citizens.  Guest workers would be required to hold a “Red Card” that specifically describe the location, employer and job for which the card is issued, along with the duration and personal information about the worker, including biometric data.

Some highlights from the Red Card Program are quoted here:








The Krieble Foundation contends that once there is a gate, the only folks illegally jumping the fence will be drug traffickers and terrorists.  Today, migrant workers, drug traffickers and terrorists all jump the fence together.


The Red Card Program is available online at:
http://www.krieble.org/Websites/krieble/Images/files/Red%20Card%20Solution%20White%20Paper.pdf

So here is how I see it: We conservatives need to engineer workable solutions to social challenges before liberals beat us to the punch with unsustainable and oppressive programs like Obamacare.  This Red Card program, if instituted wholly, would be an enormous improvement over the current fiasco.


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1 posted on 11/27/2011 7:24:27 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Presence itself is the problem.


2 posted on 11/27/2011 7:28:39 AM PST by magna carta
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To: Kaslin; raybbr; napscoordinator; TADSLOS; CodeToad; Jane Austen; cripplecreek; org.whodat; Liz
Bullsh!t. It's creating a hybrid citizen status that will be used to grant the rights of US citizens to those with red cards.

Its a trojan horse to giving red card holders rights such as voting and more.

And it STILL does not address the millions who are already here illegally.

3 posted on 11/27/2011 7:28:54 AM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Kaslin; fightinJAG
Only a moron or a liar is going to propose a “red card” second-class citizenship with a straight face.

Such an “apartheid” system (that's what it will be termed) would not stand up to Supreme Court review, and all of the red cards would soon be granted full citizenship.

Newt is no moron. So...this is just a politically sellable path to full amnesty.

4 posted on 11/27/2011 7:29:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t drink the Koolaid!


5 posted on 11/27/2011 7:30:43 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Kaslin
Even more laughable is the premise that the US government will actually track red cards. They've already let the H1 visas get out of control, not to mention no enforcement of the existing immigration laws.

It's creating MORE government to deal with a problem whose simplest solution is to enforce the laws already in place.

6 posted on 11/27/2011 7:31:00 AM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Travis McGee

Exactly right! You know, I find it extremely disturbing that so many alleged conservatives are falling for this. Unbelievable.


7 posted on 11/27/2011 7:32:05 AM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: fightinJAG

FYI, I have sadly concluded you were right about Newt. Amnesty convinced me, now I also don’t have a candidate in this race.


8 posted on 11/27/2011 7:33:09 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Kaslin
"When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way."

Notice how democrats are not jumping in to voice their opinions on the illegal/amnesty issue? They subscribe to the old adage "When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way."

Democrats know that almost nothing will change no matter who is elected president. They are in ecstasy watching republicans and conservatives tear each other up over the illegal immigration issue.

But most of all, they are happy to see republicans get Hispanics inflamed over the issue once again.


9 posted on 11/27/2011 7:35:13 AM PST by Iron Munro (Unattended children will be towed away at the owners expense)
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To: Travis McGee
Agreed. There are two major “flaws” is Newt Gingrich's plan:

1. The one you described: withstanding a court challenge, which we all know the ACLU will bring
2. The local boards he proposes will be filled with liberals, business owners who want cheap labor and bleeding hearts.

Newt is no dummy and recognizes these faults. But, then again Newt has always been pro-illegal alien/pro-amnesty.

10 posted on 11/27/2011 7:37:24 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: Kaslin

My plan is simple and will be so effective that the largest percentage of illegals will self deport. It will be so efficient, that we will have a dearth of low skilled workers and will have to legally find a way to bring in more workers to replace some of the self-deported workers.

No E-Verify, no workee.
No E-Verify, no public assistance.
Allow states to use AZ style interior enforcement.

No police state, no national ID.

We don’t have to round up 12 million illegals. Just remove the magnet and make it difficult in every regard for them to remain in the country.


11 posted on 11/27/2011 7:37:44 AM PST by umgud
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To: Kaslin

How about giving these jobs to Americans who need them?


12 posted on 11/27/2011 7:39:11 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Newt is too clever by half. He has no principles, only ideas. Get lost Newt. Its time for beliefs not tactics.


13 posted on 11/27/2011 7:40:10 AM PST by anton
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To: rintense
If conservatives fall for this patently obvious bait and switch, we deserve to lose.

The GOP will be confirmed as "the stupid party," indeed.


14 posted on 11/27/2011 7:40:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bwc2221

The “red card” is nothing but a slick conman’s gimmick, a classic bait and switch.

Newt is smart, but a liar.


15 posted on 11/27/2011 7:41:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: umgud

I like your plan, umgud. I question the 12 million. I don’t believe for one second that we have 12 million illegals. That number has been used for years and years. Maybe around 30 million plus. IMHO.


16 posted on 11/27/2011 7:41:37 AM PST by momtothree
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To: anton

Amen.


17 posted on 11/27/2011 7:42:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Red card proof you have amnesty.


18 posted on 11/27/2011 7:44:03 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

There are plenty of legal teenage girls who would be giddy at the chance to deal with the “messier side of equestrian sports” for the same pay as the transients. Horse crazy teenage girls would probably be more dependable, and bring less baggage as well. I worked through and college as a barn girl, and you know what? If I weren’t a stay at home mom with little people who need me to be there, I’d happily be a barn “girl” again! One can’t find a better way to get quiet time to think than while mucking out stalls. Only thing better is sitting mare watch (waiting for her to go into labor).


19 posted on 11/27/2011 7:46:45 AM PST by Cailleach
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To: Kaslin

Red card proof you have amnesty.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 7:46:54 AM PST by Vaduz
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