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An End to Illegal Immigration
Townhall.com ^ | November 27, 2011 | Mark Baisley

Posted on 11/27/2011 7:24:27 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/27/2011 7:24:27 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Presence itself is the problem.


2 posted on 11/27/2011 7:28:39 AM PST by magna carta
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To: Kaslin; raybbr; napscoordinator; TADSLOS; CodeToad; Jane Austen; cripplecreek; org.whodat; Liz
Bullsh!t. It's creating a hybrid citizen status that will be used to grant the rights of US citizens to those with red cards.

Its a trojan horse to giving red card holders rights such as voting and more.

And it STILL does not address the millions who are already here illegally.

3 posted on 11/27/2011 7:28:54 AM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Kaslin; fightinJAG
Only a moron or a liar is going to propose a “red card” second-class citizenship with a straight face.

Such an “apartheid” system (that's what it will be termed) would not stand up to Supreme Court review, and all of the red cards would soon be granted full citizenship.

Newt is no moron. So...this is just a politically sellable path to full amnesty.

4 posted on 11/27/2011 7:29:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t drink the Koolaid!


5 posted on 11/27/2011 7:30:43 AM PST by jpsb
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Even more laughable is the premise that the US government will actually track red cards. They've already let the H1 visas get out of control, not to mention no enforcement of the existing immigration laws.

It's creating MORE government to deal with a problem whose simplest solution is to enforce the laws already in place.

6 posted on 11/27/2011 7:31:00 AM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Travis McGee

Exactly right! You know, I find it extremely disturbing that so many alleged conservatives are falling for this. Unbelievable.


7 posted on 11/27/2011 7:32:05 AM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: fightinJAG

FYI, I have sadly concluded you were right about Newt. Amnesty convinced me, now I also don’t have a candidate in this race.


8 posted on 11/27/2011 7:33:09 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Kaslin
"When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way."

Notice how democrats are not jumping in to voice their opinions on the illegal/amnesty issue? They subscribe to the old adage "When your enemy is in the process of destroying himself, stay out of his way."

Democrats know that almost nothing will change no matter who is elected president. They are in ecstasy watching republicans and conservatives tear each other up over the illegal immigration issue.

But most of all, they are happy to see republicans get Hispanics inflamed over the issue once again.


9 posted on 11/27/2011 7:35:13 AM PST by Iron Munro (Unattended children will be towed away at the owners expense)
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To: Travis McGee
Agreed. There are two major “flaws” is Newt Gingrich's plan:

1. The one you described: withstanding a court challenge, which we all know the ACLU will bring
2. The local boards he proposes will be filled with liberals, business owners who want cheap labor and bleeding hearts.

Newt is no dummy and recognizes these faults. But, then again Newt has always been pro-illegal alien/pro-amnesty.

10 posted on 11/27/2011 7:37:24 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: Kaslin

My plan is simple and will be so effective that the largest percentage of illegals will self deport. It will be so efficient, that we will have a dearth of low skilled workers and will have to legally find a way to bring in more workers to replace some of the self-deported workers.

No E-Verify, no workee.
No E-Verify, no public assistance.
Allow states to use AZ style interior enforcement.

No police state, no national ID.

We don’t have to round up 12 million illegals. Just remove the magnet and make it difficult in every regard for them to remain in the country.


11 posted on 11/27/2011 7:37:44 AM PST by umgud
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How about giving these jobs to Americans who need them?


12 posted on 11/27/2011 7:39:11 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Newt is too clever by half. He has no principles, only ideas. Get lost Newt. Its time for beliefs not tactics.


13 posted on 11/27/2011 7:40:10 AM PST by anton
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If conservatives fall for this patently obvious bait and switch, we deserve to lose.

The GOP will be confirmed as "the stupid party," indeed.


14 posted on 11/27/2011 7:40:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bwc2221

The “red card” is nothing but a slick conman’s gimmick, a classic bait and switch.

Newt is smart, but a liar.


15 posted on 11/27/2011 7:41:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: umgud

I like your plan, umgud. I question the 12 million. I don’t believe for one second that we have 12 million illegals. That number has been used for years and years. Maybe around 30 million plus. IMHO.


16 posted on 11/27/2011 7:41:37 AM PST by momtothree
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To: anton

Amen.


17 posted on 11/27/2011 7:42:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

Red card proof you have amnesty.


18 posted on 11/27/2011 7:44:03 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin

There are plenty of legal teenage girls who would be giddy at the chance to deal with the “messier side of equestrian sports” for the same pay as the transients. Horse crazy teenage girls would probably be more dependable, and bring less baggage as well. I worked through and college as a barn girl, and you know what? If I weren’t a stay at home mom with little people who need me to be there, I’d happily be a barn “girl” again! One can’t find a better way to get quiet time to think than while mucking out stalls. Only thing better is sitting mare watch (waiting for her to go into labor).


19 posted on 11/27/2011 7:46:45 AM PST by Cailleach
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Red card proof you have amnesty.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 7:46:54 AM PST by Vaduz
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