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Republicans (Mods and Conservatives) don’t want Obama defeated badly enough. (Vanity)
November 26, 2011 | no dems

Posted on 11/26/2011 7:57:51 PM PST by no dems

I’m thinking that Republicans really don’t want Obama defeated badly enough. We are very close to pulling defeat from the jaws of victory. Even we Conservatives seem hell-bent on destroying, or helping the media destroy, everyone of our candidates one at a time by backbiting and devouring each other over “one-issue” disagreements. Some Johnny-one-notes have “Abortion” as their issue. For many, it’s “non-Electability” or a candidate is “not a good Debater” or confuses “Elvis’ birthday” with the anniversary of his death. And for a true Conservative, Rick Santorum, he will be undone because, bless his heart, he has the “Charisma” of a foot stool. But, he just might surprise all of us coming out of Iowa.

The big one now, however, is “Immigration” for which Newt is paying a high price for having the courage to be the only candidate, from any Party, to come up with a logical, workable solution to a very complex problem that has been ignored by the last five Presidents. Now we have a monster on our hands. People criticize him but, my question is what is your solution? Deport them all? Are you willing to help car pool 11 million of them back to Mexico?

Enough already!! After the convention, we will proudly send our nominee into the General Election bloodied, beaten and wounded against a united, well funded, Democratic Socialist Party and we will get our butts handed to us on a platter and we will have four more years of President Obozo. Many Conservatives have threatened to stay home on Election Day if their guy or gal is not the nominee. But, by golly, we would have “made a statement”. Well, the only problem is, you always find people who “made a statement” in the “Lost Column”.


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To: Lloyd227

Newt did much for the Conservative movement in the 90s. People seem to forget that. His roots are Conservative and he will never be a total Moderate. The power of Washington has ruined 90% of the people who ever went there with principles and ideals. They became political whores very quickly. Newt has had a spiritual conversion, repented and is remorseful for much in his past. I’m gonna cut him some slack.


121 posted on 11/26/2011 11:06:01 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: no dems
Bull crap. Ike's solution was simple---enforce the laws on the book, crack down on the illegals and deport as many as the Border Patrol could catch. No ifs, ands, or buts. And he did it only with about a thousand agents.

Almost overnight, the vast bulk of the illegal aliens then in country self-deported, and stayed out until LBJ opened the flood gates again with his loathsome Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965.

So take your whining somewhere else.

122 posted on 11/26/2011 11:10:07 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Gator113

Well sheesh! Hang in here and ignore insults. I know it’s difficult not to strike back. Consider the sources. Hit abuse and see what happens.

Primary Season is brutal. SPAM posts that few, if anyone bothers to read.

New sign on’s and multiple accounts...LOL. One just posted.

Oh my!


123 posted on 11/26/2011 11:10:45 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: stockpirate

They fled Arizona (for the other 49) when we cracked down on employers... So I have to agree with that, if the Feds wanted to get serious, would not take deporting even 10% of them, because the rest would leave on their own when they could no longer make money and send those checks back to family in Mexico


124 posted on 11/26/2011 11:11:26 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; no dems; Timber Rattler

Still using that deceptive new screen name?
WHY?


125 posted on 11/26/2011 11:12:35 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: onyx
Not to say I told you so, BUT...

"Stick a fork in him. He’s done."

2 posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:39:30 AM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)

126 posted on 11/26/2011 11:12:56 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: no dems
Your Post #49 is EXCELLENT!!!

Yes it is and it's also illegal. Be careful what is posted.

127 posted on 11/26/2011 11:17:08 PM PST by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: no dems
I understand. I think that doing everything you can to get a Marxist Muslim out of the White House would be a good start to protecting our Freedoms and our Constitutional Republic before he totally destroys both.

I'm not sure this is true at any cost. Obama has no chance of passing an amnesty bill. However, a president Gingrich might be able to ( oh yes, he will call it something else) with the assistance of Democrats and progressive Republicans like Boehner. I believe that if this were to happen, the economy of the US would mean little as we would be doomed to a a dominant Democrat majority progressing ever closer to a Marxist state.

Is Obama the worst among all the possibilities? I'm not certain. That's why my goal is to put in place a conservative, not just to defeat Obama.

128 posted on 11/26/2011 11:24:16 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: no dems

What is this idea that some how scrutiny is not good? If we think because we don’t scrutinize our candidates that the left will follow in kind we are greatly deluded. I don’t like when crap comes out but if Bill Clinton taught us anything it can immunize a candidate in the general election if they survive it. I’ve heard it from all sides. Romney folks say don’t dare point out his record because he is our best hope, Newt folks say the same thing, Perry folks have said the same, Cain folks also (I consider myself one). This is a primary fight. What I do dislike is the criticism from our side that isn’t record based. Trying to cast a candidate as stupid because of misstatements or awkward language. Suddenly a man or woman becomes the distilled narrative defined by a handful of gaffs while other candidates who have demonstrated how horrible they are with very easy to see records of abuse of power and abridgement of liberties yet we are supposed to fear a man or woman who misstates something or doesn’t know a bit of trivia? That is what alarms me because it is at that point where we are no better than liberals.

I mean when I hear conservatives defending weak immigration policy, health care mandates, cap and trade schemes, etc it just makes me sick. Some of the vitriol and ridicule against the most liberty oriented conservative candidates like Ron Paul, Cain, and Bachmann is very counterproductive. I care less about whether a candidate is ‘serious’ in the eyes of the media and the political class and more about whether they take the Constitution and limited government seriously.

We need to stand up and choose a candidate worthy of supporting not troll out some retread politico from the 90s or some NE liberal Republican who wasn’t even a very good Governor by any measure. Does anyone think that Reagan had an easy nomination? No he was called stupid, he was called extreme but of course he was a more eloquent speaker which is an asset but I don’t know where people have gotten this idea that an ideological fight is a bad thing. The moderates in the GOP after the Reagan nomination even ran a third party candidate Anderson who took 14% of the vote. Reagan still beat Carter. Yeah I know that is a bit of history that is conveniently omitted.

Right now I’m sticking with Cain but I’m perfectly open to Paul, Bachmann and others. Let’s at least try to get someone who hasn’t supported big government like Medicare Part D, Health Care mandates, etc. The key element is to make sure We don’t follow up 2010 with a Gerald Fordesque or Nixonian Nomination which is what I see in Romney and Gingrich. Let’s try something different and have faith in our ability to make the case for conservatism and liberty in the face of socialism because no candidate will do that alone and I’m not going to pretend to go along with some throwback who wants to blur the lines. This isn’t a time for shades of grey, this is time for RED, WHITE, And BLUE!
We may not have a Reagan but by God we should demand the closest we can get.


129 posted on 11/26/2011 11:32:24 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: no dems

I think the main ones that say they will sit out the election if their particular guy is not nominated are the Ron Paul supporters... Most all of the others it seems only will sit out if Mitt Romney is the Nominee...

In this Primary process, I wanted Sarah Palin, but she said no, so I am supporting Herman Cain to get the nod, but if he does not, I could grudgingly pull the lever for almost anybody but Romney, in our Countries best interest, Paul would be a stretch, but even him over Romney.

I have heard it said numerous times and completely agree, any one of our field is preferable to Obama... Romney would have to be included in that general statement, with a BARELY thrown in there, BUT running as a Conservative Republican, when he is not really and wont make the changes a REAL Conservative would make to really make the difference that is needed at this point, will hurt the Conservative movement, FAR more than he helps the country in my view.

That said, As somebody else points out, in response, I said that about McCain until he picked Palin and I went ahead and voted for our best interests and cast my vote for her... I just cant imagine right now, who Romney would have to pick though, because as bad as I did not want to see McCain get the nod, Mitt was again the One I did not feel I could vote for under ANY circumstances.

If Romney does get the nod, I will still go vote to try to vote in other real conservative, tea party types for other local and national seats but the Presidential boxes will most likely remain unchecked if it ends up being Romney vs Obama... I am done giving my vote out to ANY Career Politician at this point... and that goes for every one of my Congress and Senators that are up for re-election too!


130 posted on 11/26/2011 11:38:06 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: mouske

local boards?

Thats just ridiculous, how many times have we been told this is a federal issue?

lol


131 posted on 11/26/2011 11:48:08 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: no dems

Not much about these candidates to be excited about.


132 posted on 11/27/2011 12:05:33 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Vigilanteman
Herman Cain's only major shortcoming is a lack of knowledge/background on foreign affairs.

I recall a question asked at about this point in the 2000 cycle ... who is the president of Pakistan? Bush didn't know. But he sure as hell found out, in due time!

135 posted on 11/27/2011 12:46:19 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Gator113

Bump


136 posted on 11/27/2011 12:57:55 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Herman Cain’s only major shortcoming is a lack of knowledge/background on foreign affairs. It is a problem which can easily be overcome by appointing somebody like John Bolton as Secretary of State.”

or just any random freeper :/


137 posted on 11/27/2011 1:58:12 AM PST by ari-freedom ("Perry: good governor. Romney: Good hair."-Herman Cain)
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To: EternalVigilance

That really worked well for folks in the last election huh?


138 posted on 11/27/2011 3:29:04 AM PST by swampfox101
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To: no dems

A sanity vanity;).

Well done ‘no dems’.


139 posted on 11/27/2011 4:27:27 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich-Cain 2012)
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To: no dems

Good vanity - it says all I’ve been trying to say in a single place. The “purists” (that will earn me more flaming) will kill us all.


140 posted on 11/27/2011 4:33:28 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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