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Gingrich says he is 'not for amnesty,' defends immigration stance
The Hill ^ | 11/26/11 | Meghashyam Mali

Posted on 11/26/2011 1:01:37 PM PST by presidio9

GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich defended his immigration stance Friday, claiming that he was "not for amnesty."

“I am not for amnesty for anyone. I am not for a path to citizenship for anybody who got here illegally,” Gingrich said at a town hall event in Naples, Florida according to media reports.

“But I am for a path to legality for those people whose ties run so deeply in America that it would truly be a tragedy to try and rip their family apart," said the former House Speaker.

Gingrich has been under fire from some anti-illegal immigration groups since last Tuesday's GOP debate where he spoke out against deporting many illegal immigrant families.

During Friday’s town hall, Gingrich said that if elected he would make securing the border a priority and would support efforts to make English the country's official language.

He said he would also establish a guest-worker program to allow migrants to work in the U.S. But under such a program, businesses which hired undocumented workers would be hit with fines.

"I would have very, very stiff economic penalties for anyone who hires somebody who is not legally inside the system," Gingrich vowed.

At last Tuesday’s GOP debate, Gingrich said that he supported efforts to allow tax-paying illegal immigrants without criminal records to remain in the country or gain citizenship.

“If you've come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period,” Gingrich had said. “If you've been here 25 years and you got three kids and two grandkids, you've been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don't think we're going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully and kick you out.”

"I don't see how the party that says it's the party of the family is going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families which have been here a quarter-century," he added. "I'm prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law."

Gingrich has faced criticism for his comments from other Republicans. Rep. Michelle Bachmann (Minn.) said in an interview that Gingrich had the “most liberal position on illegal immigration of any of the candidates in the race.”

Influential Iowa congressman Rep. Steve King (R) described Gingrich’s proposals as a “form of amnesty”

“I wouldn’t agree with him on that policy,” King added, suggesting that Gingrich had hurt his chances of winning his endorsement prior to the Iowa caucuses.

The furor over Gingrich’s immigration stance comes as new national polls place him ahead of Romney in the GOP field.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnewtsty; heartless; reevaluategingrich; the2bobs
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To: SoConPubbie

They won’t do what they say.

That is what I am saying.

I could care less what he says now, his past shows us he cannot be trusted.


41 posted on 11/26/2011 1:36:41 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: presidio9

I like my plan because it benefits the American taxpayer and American family. And because it does not involve rewarding the ILLEGAL invaders that Newt wants to make legal.


42 posted on 11/26/2011 1:37:12 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: South40

Sorry to disappoint you, but Jim Robinson is not running for president. I agree with everything he is saying, but attacking Mitt Romney’s opponents without offering an alternative guarantees that we end up with Mitt Romney.

“If it comes down to Gingrich Vs. Romney, then no question... Go Newt!!!” -Jim Robinson

Not a solution.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 1:38:52 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: GeronL
They won’t do what they say.

That is what I am saying.


Yes, you are correct, furthermore, the reality is that Newt's plan is so complex that is is ripe for the courts to turn it on it's head and make his new class of Legal residency full on Citizens.
44 posted on 11/26/2011 1:39:49 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: South40
I like my plan because it benefits the American taxpayer and American family. And because it does not involve rewarding the ILLEGAL invaders that Newt wants to make legal.

Your plan, my plan, and Jim's plans are irrelvant if no candidate is planning on implementing them. You are wasting all of our time.

I like my plan where I'm married to Jennifer Connelly.

45 posted on 11/26/2011 1:40:24 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

With the low cost of travel today, phone calls, webcams, etc., geographic separation doesn’t mean nearly what it used to. If you came illegally and have grandchildren now, your children are all grown up. You can visit them once or twice a year just like people who live on the other side of the country do, talk with them on the phone every night, see new pictures every week.


46 posted on 11/26/2011 1:40:41 PM PST by heartwood
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To: SoConPubbie
Yes, but in Newt's plan, he FIRST wants to legalize the illegals, and then implement the cutting off of benefits. The net result being you have now made it legal for them to keep getting those benefits.

Where in the world did you get that idea?

47 posted on 11/26/2011 1:40:52 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Niteflyr

Yes, Yes, That speech is “contingent” on Mexico being like Canada.

You know he is not for open borders.


48 posted on 11/26/2011 1:42:19 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: presidio9

OK, I’ll name my candidate as Rick Perry. And I won’t attack Newt on this issue, he and Rick both have workable solutions on the immigration issue. Here in Texas, immigrant workers, both legal and not so legal, have been invited here to work for at least the last 45 years that I can recall. Most, if not all of them caused no trouble, nor did they start to “milk” the system until the last decade or so. No candidate is going to “round ‘em all up” and deport them.


49 posted on 11/26/2011 1:42:19 PM PST by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Niteflyr
Rick Perry 'On The Record' saying he would support amnesty (path to citizenship) for ILLEGAL aliens.

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But just to be clear: if border security is accomplished, you can envision some sort of path to citizenship for people who are here illegally.

Rick Perry: Sure.

50 posted on 11/26/2011 1:42:21 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: presidio9
Just like McCain, Graham, GW Bush, and all the amnesty pushers, Gingrich is using word games to obfuscate the issue.

Path to legality.
Path to non-deportation.
Legalization of illegals.

The end result is still they same: they get to stay and they can do it legally.

Worse is the Red Card idea. That just adds another level of bureaucracy that taxpayers have to fund.

There is no assurance that Gingrich's path plan would do anything to resolve the problem. In another couple of decades, we would have another 20 million or so new illegals vying for some form of legalization.
51 posted on 11/26/2011 1:42:37 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: mylife
"You know he is not for open borders."

Mexico like Canada...bwahahahahahaha!!!!

52 posted on 11/26/2011 1:43:45 PM PST by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: presidio9; South40
“If it comes down to Gingrich Vs. Romney, then no question... Go Newt!!!” -Jim Robinson

Stick a fork in him. He’s done.

A solution to the problem has been posted multiple times on this thread TO YOU and you have blithely ignored it.

Jim came up, independently, with basically the same plan, here it is:

For being the “smartest” man in the race, this buffoon has no clue whatsoever. How many American workers are currently unemployed? Why do we need alien workers? Why do we want to continue subsidizing “cheap” foreign labor? Why continue burdening the taxpayers, law enforcement, courts, hospitals, schools, the welfare system, etc, with the illegal alien community?

Secure the borders.

Cut off all social benefits for illegals.

Clamp down on employers who hire illegals.

Deport illegals when caught.

Send the convicted criminals among them to prison.

The rest will leave as the freebies and opportunities dry up.

Bust up their families? Hell no! We’re not inhumane. They can take their families with them back home to Mexico.

53 posted on 11/26/2011 1:44:23 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: magna carta

You’re right. Even if they did not succeed in their lawsuit, Gingrich has said not a word about changing the currant interpretation of birthright citizenship. There are hundreds of millions of people in this world who would jump at the chance to be second-class residents here and see their children be citizens, hundreds of millions more than we can absorb.


54 posted on 11/26/2011 1:44:25 PM PST by heartwood
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To: presidio9
I'm not a Gingrich supporter. He's smart and good at debating, but he's a RINO and I wouldn't trust him for dog catcher much less the presidency. He's down near the bottom of my list of eligible *cough* Republicans just before Ron Paul."
-Jim Robinson

Not a solution either but neither is amnesty.

55 posted on 11/26/2011 1:45:08 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: presidio9

So “limited amnesty’ statement happened in some alternate universe ?

Amnesty is amnesty.


56 posted on 11/26/2011 1:45:39 PM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: Quickgun
No candidate is going to “round ‘em all up” and deport them.

Correct. Even if that were possible logistically, and even if Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the WH, liberals would still have the option of tying things up in the courts for decades. And suggestion that includes a "round up" can't be taken seriously.

57 posted on 11/26/2011 1:46:20 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Lady Lucky
Where in the world did you get that idea?

Actually, you have a point. Newt did say he wanted to implement some type of method to keep them from getting benefits, however, whether he recognizes it or not, that would take a whole new layer of federal bureaucracy to implement, effectively increasing the size and scope and control of the federal government.
58 posted on 11/26/2011 1:47:59 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Again, every point you mention is included in Gingrich’s 10-step plan. You really ought to read it.


59 posted on 11/26/2011 1:49:08 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: South40

You plucked that out of a 4 page article as proof that he is for amnesty?


60 posted on 11/26/2011 1:49:15 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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