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Gingrich: Most illegal immigrants should leave, reapply to become citizens
MSNBC ^ | 11-25-2011 | Alex Moe

Posted on 11/25/2011 9:26:18 PM PST by TitansAFC

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To: American Constitutionalist

#105 BUMP


141 posted on 11/26/2011 10:45:51 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: oldbill

Ah, so then in your view, the only option is to round them up at gunpoint and escort them across the border. Let me know how it goes in the General election for a candidate that espouses that.


142 posted on 11/26/2011 11:07:39 AM PST by RainMan (Newt - An actual plan that solves illegals without amnesty, unlike your candidate. Gingrich/Palin)
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To: bwc2221

Yes I have. The ACLU has a significantly harder time arguing against Green/Red Card status, but they sure as heck will fight what you are proposing. There would not be a single illegal rounded up under your proposal because the ACLU would tie it up in knots.


143 posted on 11/26/2011 11:10:57 AM PST by RainMan (Newt - An actual plan that solves illegals without amnesty, unlike your candidate. Gingrich/Palin)
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To: RainMan

Logical thinking not your strong point, eh?

That’s OK. Your man Gingrich ain’t so good at it either.
Maybe you can point out the actual law to Newt, since he is applying for the job that requires him to enforce it:

8USC1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
How Current is This? (a) Criminal penalties
(1)
(A) Any person who—
(i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).


144 posted on 11/26/2011 11:18:37 AM PST by oldbill
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To: RainMan

Logical thinking not your strong point, eh?

That’s OK. Your man Gingrich ain’t so good at it either.
Maybe you can point out the actual law to Newt, since he is applying for the job that requires him to enforce it:

8USC1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
How Current is This? (a) Criminal penalties
(1)
(A) Any person who—
(i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
(v)
(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).


145 posted on 11/26/2011 11:21:59 AM PST by oldbill
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To: sickoflibs; American Constitutionalist; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne

” sjb lives not far from the Mexico border in Arizona. He can testify how the wave of daily illegals are brightening up his area of the country “

If you mean by “ brightening up “ the 400,000 acres started by illegal trespassers, yes.....they certainly have.


146 posted on 11/26/2011 11:29:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: GeronL

Which Newt am I supposed to believe?


147 posted on 11/26/2011 11:34:18 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: TitansAFC
A $5000 penalty and then you receive (or have already received) tens of thousands of dollars worth of public benefits

Newt = Fail

148 posted on 11/26/2011 11:40:21 AM PST by turducken
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To: stephenjohnbanker; American Constitutionalist; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne
RE :”If you mean by “ brightening up “ the 400,000 acres started by illegal trespassers, yes.....they certainly have

That is ‘undocumented American immigrant worker’ Sir. We don't want to hurt any-ones feelings.

Remember the progressive motto : we all own everything in a democracy collectively, even those ‘undocumented’ own a fair share for being here. We all were undocumented immigrants coming here for food stamps once, especially the slaves.

149 posted on 11/26/2011 11:55:49 AM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: sickoflibs
RE: "Newt just says things without thinking them out."
I'm beginning to notice that to.
150 posted on 11/26/2011 12:15:38 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: TitansAFC
Bachmann Releases Gingrich Amnesty Letter
151 posted on 11/26/2011 12:23:46 PM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I agree with you. Illegals totally destroy American life. They do not assimilate. They are rude, slamming doors in front of you, no smiles (unless it’s a man’s leer). They are filthy. They leave unsanitary trash everywhere. They don’t do anything for their school kids, which ruins public education and slows down every classroom. They are dangerous as you demonstrated.

I was behind a man at OSH hardware, and he was buying a lot of fly traps. I asked if he had horses or dogs. He said “no, illegals,
.”. Next door to him there were many illegals stuffed into a clown house, and the one bathroom wasn’t enough so they used the yard...

I am sorry, newt, in your VA mansion, but we are not inhumane for wanting them out!


152 posted on 11/26/2011 12:24:34 PM PST by Yaelle (This weekend, donate $9.99 to Herman Cain!)
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To: MHGinTN

So first we’re “hate filled” to want to deport illegals, and now you’re accusing individual posters of being Obama agents? I guess we know we’ve won the argument then.


153 posted on 11/26/2011 12:25:10 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Apollo5600

Not really a good try n00b. Think a nother few hours and try again.


154 posted on 11/26/2011 12:30:07 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: VideoDoctor

“Which Newt am I supposed to believe?”

Whichever one you like the best.


155 posted on 11/26/2011 12:31:59 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Newt does not care about any of what you say. He is the tool of corporate American who want cheap labor, that is it. The liberals love to hide behind words like ‘humane’, ‘compassion’ but the liberals are also a tool for corporate American. Amnesty is corporate welfare, cheap labor and any cost.


156 posted on 11/26/2011 12:37:52 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: shield

Bachmann never calls out Romney ever, rumor has it one of Romney’s henchman are running her gig in South Carolina and somehow enough money showed up to keep her going in SC..

stalking horse...no other purpose


157 posted on 11/26/2011 12:40:13 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: shield

good post on the Bachmann letter, note the signers, bunch of corporate welfare whores.


158 posted on 11/26/2011 12:43:06 PM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: topfile

Let’s ask all that question of the people who have been waiting and following the law to come in LEGALLY. I bet they pay far more than that for immigration lawyers and paperwork.

Gingrich wants AMNESTY. Period.


159 posted on 11/26/2011 12:43:59 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: South40

Wow. That’s an ad right there. :)


160 posted on 11/26/2011 12:52:06 PM PST by Politicalmom
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