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Debate Flashback: When Bachmann Supported A Non-Deportation Approach To Illegal Immigration
Townhall ^ | 11/25/2011 | Greg Hengler

Posted on 11/25/2011 12:41:43 PM PST by TBBT

Congresswoman Bachmann appears to be conveniently forgetting her own views on immigration in order to score political points. During the presidential debate at the Reagan Library on September 7, she said she won't deport all 11 million illegal immigrants here in the United States.

[Full transcript]

HARRIS: A quick 30-second rebuttal on the specific question. The fence is built, the border is under control. What do you do with 11.5 million people who are here without documents and with U.S.- born children?

BACHMANN: Well, that's right. And again, it is sequential, and it depends upon where they live, how long they have been here, if they have a criminal record. All of those things have to be taken into place.

Sounds almost identical to Newt's position that once we secure the border first, we can have a humane enforcement policy vis-a-vis some of those remaining.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bachmann
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To: jessduntno
Believe newt, LOL, he has two ex wives that say do not believe newt. Newt only stands for two things, newts ego and his god “money buys power”.
41 posted on 11/25/2011 1:20:15 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: InterceptPoint
I'll tell you how to prove that to yourself. Just walk around Los Angeles some time and tell me how you are going to deport almost everyone you see on the streets.

You don't deport them. You encourage them to self deport and since California encourages them to stay, you put pressure on the state as well. I would also encourage those who have been here for 25 years or more to come forward so we can look at each and every case.

One thing you folks seem to overlook is what has happened and what continues to happen to America.

Do the math, if there are 30 million illegals in America, how many congressional districts do they create based on census numbers alone. Anyone who thinks they lean GOP is a moron.
42 posted on 11/25/2011 1:22:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Yep. Unless conservatives rally around a specific candidate then Mitt Romney will be the nominee. Let’s hope the primary process results in some consolation to prevent Romney from getting in.


43 posted on 11/25/2011 1:22:00 PM PST by plain talk
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To: org.whodat
...just off hand why do you amnesty supporters try and claim you are conservatives.

I'm curious. Can you name a current conservative candidate for the Republican nomination who shares your views on "amnesty"?

And trust me, I'm a conservative. But I don't think I want to expand the police presence by the factor of 10 to 100 that it would take to carry out a "deport them all" plan.

No matter what you think, these people are not going to volunteer to go back to Mexico. Not going to happen. You will have to find them, arrest them and ship them back. By the millions. Good luck with that.

44 posted on 11/25/2011 1:22:59 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: South40

... NOBODY! LOL!

Here on FR we run’em all through the meat grinder and they come out looking like sausage.


45 posted on 11/25/2011 1:25:55 PM PST by Quicksilver (nominate Rick Perry - defeat Obama - overhaul Washington!)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

LOL, Newt is not calling for exceptions, Newt is flashing a red herring. Someone here twenty five years would have been made legal under Reagan. As usual Newt is full of BS. And is trying to reward people that came here after he voted and committed to ending it.


46 posted on 11/25/2011 1:26:44 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: 2007 Crusader; Maryhere

FR is no place to push amnesty. Perhaps DU would better suit you.


47 posted on 11/25/2011 1:26:51 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: Quicksilver

FR is no place to push amnesty; it is not a conservative position.


48 posted on 11/25/2011 1:27:48 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: plain talk
“Yep. Unless conservatives rally around a specific candidate then Mitt Romney will be the nominee.”

So, why rally around the Anti-Mitt candidate who is the most like Mitt? That would be Newt.

49 posted on 11/25/2011 1:28:23 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: InterceptPoint

You have no law enforcement unless you enforce the law.


50 posted on 11/25/2011 1:28:29 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: cripplecreek
You don't deport them. You encourage them to self deport and since California encourages them to stay, you put pressure on the state as well.

How sure are you that approach will work?

I don't think there is any chance that it would. They will leave if they think they would better off in Mexico than they would be in the U.S. Cut off their welfare, their free medical at the emergency rooms and they are still going to feel that they are better off in the U.S. They mostly have jobs, some own their own homes, most have been here for many years and are settled in. I'm not saying that's a good thing but it's the facts of the matter.

You are dreaming if you think you can get half of Los Angeles to volunteer to go back to Mexico. It's just a dream. It will never be reality.

51 posted on 11/25/2011 1:31:30 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

I’ve wondered about this idea....

It’s one thing to self-deport from Alabama to another state. But to self-deport to Mexico may be another story.


52 posted on 11/25/2011 1:34:19 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

As bad as Newt’s record on amnesties stretching all the way back to the 1980s is there’s way more to it than that. When I see Bachmann sitting on the couch with algore and doing tours with Jesse Jackson then I might come to a different opinion.


53 posted on 11/25/2011 1:35:13 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: South40
FR is no place to push amnesty; it is not a conservative position.

I made the mistake of following Newt2012HQ (Both english and hispanic) on twitter for a few days. It was nothing but a steady stream of talking points to attack other candidates with.
54 posted on 11/25/2011 1:35:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: org.whodat
You have no law enforcement unless you enforce the law.

Nice words. But it ignores the practicality of enforcing some laws.

The legislature could pass a law saying that we couldn't grow lemon trees in our backyard (environmental hazard). Is that enforceable? How about marijuana? Same deal. We have all kinds of laws that are not enforced because they are inherently unenforceable.

So let's hear your plan. If removing millions of illegals is practical tell us how to do it. They are not going to leave voluntarily. They are going to go kicking and screaming. Tell how to do it.

55 posted on 11/25/2011 1:36:55 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

The closest Bachmann has come to doing that was supporting ethanol subsidies in the past. I don’t like it but then again I’m not sitting around whining about how nobody is perfect in an attempt to get people to support even worse.


56 posted on 11/25/2011 1:38:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: InterceptPoint

If we can cut off the benefits and get 30% to leave, we will be 30% better off.


57 posted on 11/25/2011 1:38:17 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: RainMan

The ones that want to try, is the one I will vote for, not lip service try, and that includes all illegals not just Latinos. I am not any ones child support service, and the illegals need to know and understand that. So if we leave anyone that should be the first test, do you have receipts for the hospital bills on those kids. Can you speak and read English, the military is open for training, requires six years, no exemptions.


58 posted on 11/25/2011 1:40:07 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: InterceptPoint

You’ve clearly capitulated and I really see no point in wasting further time with you.


59 posted on 11/25/2011 1:40:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: GeronL
Cut off the welfare, jobs and benefits and they will self-deport.
Where would they go? And more importantly, why would they go there? Even without all of the supposed benefits they would still be better off staying here, especially if they have legal children and grandchildren here.
60 posted on 11/25/2011 1:42:59 PM PST by Quicksilver (nominate Rick Perry - defeat Obama - overhaul Washington!)
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