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To: Cronos

Nah, olog believes that Germany is planning a new Reich. The theme of his threads are generally: EU bad, Germany is really the 3rd Reich undercover, blah-blah
You seem hell-bent on defending Germany and the EU over the US and the UK; defending true republics against a copy of the Soviet Union. Why is that?

There is enough evidence out of EU and German politicians already. And that's aside from things like the Red House Report (declassified in 1996), the papers recovered from the German Geopolitical Office in Madrid (as recorded in T.H. Tetens' book), and the plethora of modern-day news articles.
The (European) Community is living largely by the heritage of the Holy Roman Empire, though the great majority of the people that live by it don't know by what heritage they live.

— Otto von Habsburg, 1988

The future will belong to the Germans … when we build the House of Europe. In the next two years, we will make the process of European integration irreversible. This is a really big battle, but it is worth the fight.

— Helmut Kohl, 1995

Does free Europe want to join Germany? Germany is the heart of Europe, and the limbs must adjust themselves to the heart, not the heart to the limbs.

— Hans Christian Seebohm, 1951, after accusing the victors of WWII of a "monstrous crime . . . against Germany, Europe and the whole world".

32 posted on 11/25/2011 8:21:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
You seem hell-bent on defending Germany and the EU over the US and the UK;

Nothing of the kind. Firstly, the matter of the euro-zone collapsing or not is not "defending the EU over the US".

Secondly, the UK of today is heavily integrated into the EU in most matters

Thirdly, you are the one parading 40s stereotypes of Germany out of Allo Allo and not awake to the reality that in this case, the Germans are saying to the Greeks etc. "if you want OUR money, then stop cheating on your taxes, stop inflating govt accounts, etc. -- what gives you Greeks the right to retire at 55 when we have to work hard until 67?" -- and the Germans are right to demand action if the Greeks want their money.

38 posted on 11/28/2011 12:19:28 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Olog-hai
And you seem hell-bent on living in the 1940s instead of the 2010s.

As I said, I've read the Red house report and that planned for the continuation of the 3rd Reich. Germany since the 60s (and probably earlier) is NOT in any way like the Germany of the 40s or earlier. The German people are nothing compared to the Germans of the Reich or Empire -- they're not necessarily nicer, just weaker

The Red report details how the Nutzis taught they could retain a united Germany by holding off the soviets until they could secure good terms from the West

That didn't happen and the East Germans were pyschologically changed from the West Germans

the Soviets never allowed any form of German nationalism and that still holds true today

the Red report is a product of its time and for a future that never happened.

now come out of your twilight zone

39 posted on 11/28/2011 12:21:08 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Olog-hai; Berlin_Freeper
And you seem hell-bent on living in the 1940s instead of the 2010s.

Did you even check on where and when and EXACTLY WHAT Kohl said? Did you even wonder why the elipses?

Because there's something cut out by reporters for their soundbite?

When Kohl talks about German reunification and saying the future belongs to a united Germany, he's not being jingoistic any more than a Rwandan President saying the future belongs to a strong Rwanda

and when "we" -- the we referred to were the Europeans united -- there has been no idea of Germany being the one making all the rules until everyone demanded bailouts from them -- nearly all the EU rules and bureaucracy is French or Belgian or Dutch or Luxembourg in origin.

40 posted on 11/28/2011 12:28:45 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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