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To: Olog-hai; Berlin_Freeper
And you seem hell-bent on living in the 1940s instead of the 2010s.

Did you even check on where and when and EXACTLY WHAT Kohl said? Did you even wonder why the elipses?

Because there's something cut out by reporters for their soundbite?

When Kohl talks about German reunification and saying the future belongs to a united Germany, he's not being jingoistic any more than a Rwandan President saying the future belongs to a strong Rwanda

and when "we" -- the we referred to were the Europeans united -- there has been no idea of Germany being the one making all the rules until everyone demanded bailouts from them -- nearly all the EU rules and bureaucracy is French or Belgian or Dutch or Luxembourg in origin.

40 posted on 11/28/2011 12:28:45 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Cronos; Olog-hai
I have seen and posted in Olog-hai's (The Olog-hai were a fierce breed of Trolls) numerous anti-Germany threads in the past. As an American living in Berlin this is not how I will likely spend my time. I am a firm believer in the silent majority and that most reasonable minded people will see the ugly caricature Olog-hai has made of himself.
44 posted on 11/28/2011 12:48:08 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (For years the Left protested "the occupation of Iraq"- now they want to "Occupy" all across the US)
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To: Cronos

And you seem hell-bent on living in the 1940s instead of the 2010s.

Did you even check on where and when and EXACTLY WHAT Kohl said? Did you even wonder why the elipses?

Because there's something cut out by reporters for their soundbite?

When Kohl talks about German reunification and saying the future belongs to a united Germany, he's not being jingoistic any more than a Rwandan President saying the future belongs to a strong Rwanda and when "we" -- the we referred to were the Europeans united -- there has been no idea of Germany being the one making all the rules until everyone demanded bailouts from them -- nearly all the EU rules and bureaucracy is French or Belgian or Dutch or Luxembourg in origin
Nobody demanded bailouts from Germany.

Seeking context where none exists is what liberals do. If you can find the whole quote for me, then by all means do so; I myself have been looking for it ever since I discovered it, and I don't think a single thing that you could add to it could ever justify that, especially the untruncated bit about making European integration "irreversible". Notwithstanding, you yourself shouldn't attempt to fill in the blanks, because you may be setting yourself up for a fall. Kohl's got enough to atone for when it comes to his unilateral recognition of the independence of Croatia and Slovenia, which precipitated the big war there in the mid-90s.

I won't go on too much, but for now, here's a quote attributed to General Hans Friedrich, from a broadcast made (ironically) in Brussels:
I know you are friends of the British; that you are eagerly waiting the British and American forces. Within a short while, you shall fill the streets of Brussels and shout, “At last they are here—the liberators!” You will acclaim the Allied troops as they march through your streets. You will do so because you know that Britain has never lost the last battle. But one day, we shall come back. Until then, à bientôt.

52 posted on 11/28/2011 1:37:07 PM PST by Olog-hai
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