Posted on 11/24/2011 10:56:50 PM PST by bruinbirdman
No one cares in the middle of America. Black Friday and my scanner is going nuts with fights in Wal Mart parking lots.
When the real SHTF these same people will be the Zombie horde.
…Germany’s behavior…tyranny and brute force…What exactly is your problem with Merkel’s stance on this? The Frenchies and the PIGS want the ECB to be like the Fed, so they can continue spending money like crazy in the public sector and pay for it all with worthless paper money. Are you in favor of unfettered money printing? When has that become a recommended policy here on Free Republic? Are you a Keynesian? Did you also think that Obama’s stimulus programs were just great?
The French want Germany to launch a TARP program. And kick the can down the road.
Whoopee. He wrote those while drunk as a skunk.
Yeah, but this time they don't want it.
It's like being forced to have your Crazy Uncle move in with you. :-)
Inflate the currency. That would cause Germany's domestic prices and wages to rise making their exports less competitive, and would make imports more attractive to German consumers. Germany has remained economically strong because it refused this "helpful" advice.
As the article points out, the French want the ECB to become a lender of last resort just like the Fed. That is code for let's please print Euros to get us out of this bond mess. It's the same old thing and Germany's not falling for it.
I do get a kick out of the commenters here who claim Germany is "running" Europe and basically just being mean. The truth is, they're the only adults on the continent right now -- and maybe the world.
Nah, olog believes that Germany is planning a new Reich. The theme of his threads are generally: EU bad, Germany is really the 3rd Reich undercover, blah-blah.
I wondered if the dollar would rise....
Thanks for the opinion, Mr. Obama.
Whoopee. He wrote those while drunk as a skunk
History will certainly prove that opinion to be correct.
actually it was Churchill's jingoism behind that statement that the USE should be built by the English
The people never wanted it, perhaps. The German elites have always lusted after it, though. Never read about the CDU's "passion" for European union?
Yeah, but this time they don't want it
Originally posted by org.whodat
germany finally took europe and did not fire a shot.
You seem hell-bent on defending Germany and the EU over the US and the UK; defending true republics against a copy of the Soviet Union. Why is that?
Nah, olog believes that Germany is planning a new Reich. The theme of his threads are generally: EU bad, Germany is really the 3rd Reich undercover, blah-blah
The (European) Community is living largely by the heritage of the Holy Roman Empire, though the great majority of the people that live by it don't know by what heritage they live.
— Otto von Habsburg, 1988
The future will belong to the Germans … when we build the House of Europe. In the next two years, we will make the process of European integration irreversible. This is a really big battle, but it is worth the fight.
— Helmut Kohl, 1995
Does free Europe want to join Germany? Germany is the heart of Europe, and the limbs must adjust themselves to the heart, not the heart to the limbs.
— Hans Christian Seebohm, 1951, after accusing the victors of WWII of a "monstrous crime . . . against Germany, Europe and the whole world".
Ah, the irony. Germany takes on additional debt to prop up the failing states, thus leaving the boundaries of the Maastricht treaty, and *then* some (here and elsewhere) point the finger at Germany and say, see, you're not in compliance with Maastricht either!
Norway is going to be a factor. Like the Viking Raids of a thousand years ago, they will start raiding with money and buying parts of the Euro up. North Sea Oil is the new Viking Sword. Although they better watch their back for those Russian Bears.
Let me add that with “some (here and elsewhere)” I did not mean to refer to you, Cronos. Mostly to so-called journalists and ‘pundits’.
Perhaps, but I believe they spend a lot of their oil money for social measures in their own country, and the people wouldn’t be happy if that money went elsewhere. Plus, they might have to get in line behind the Saudis and Emirates...
If you mean England of today, then no, the England of today is a mess, trudging along on past glories and unable of managing itself let alone others
I'm not saying the Franco-German union isn't bad, just that if Blairite-postBlairite England was to organize it, it would have been worse
Nothing of the kind. Firstly, the matter of the euro-zone collapsing or not is not "defending the EU over the US".
Secondly, the UK of today is heavily integrated into the EU in most matters
Thirdly, you are the one parading 40s stereotypes of Germany out of Allo Allo and not awake to the reality that in this case, the Germans are saying to the Greeks etc. "if you want OUR money, then stop cheating on your taxes, stop inflating govt accounts, etc. -- what gives you Greeks the right to retire at 55 when we have to work hard until 67?" -- and the Germans are right to demand action if the Greeks want their money.
As I said, I've read the Red house report and that planned for the continuation of the 3rd Reich. Germany since the 60s (and probably earlier) is NOT in any way like the Germany of the 40s or earlier. The German people are nothing compared to the Germans of the Reich or Empire -- they're not necessarily nicer, just weaker
The Red report details how the Nutzis taught they could retain a united Germany by holding off the soviets until they could secure good terms from the West
That didn't happen and the East Germans were pyschologically changed from the West Germans
the Soviets never allowed any form of German nationalism and that still holds true today
the Red report is a product of its time and for a future that never happened.
now come out of your twilight zone
Did you even check on where and when and EXACTLY WHAT Kohl said? Did you even wonder why the elipses?
Because there's something cut out by reporters for their soundbite?
When Kohl talks about German reunification and saying the future belongs to a united Germany, he's not being jingoistic any more than a Rwandan President saying the future belongs to a strong Rwanda
and when "we" -- the we referred to were the Europeans united -- there has been no idea of Germany being the one making all the rules until everyone demanded bailouts from them -- nearly all the EU rules and bureaucracy is French or Belgian or Dutch or Luxembourg in origin.
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